Even on one of epics own games, Rocket League, the experience is far better on Steam if you were lucky enough to buy it when it was still listed there. Epic launcher is a piece of hot garbage, and the free game aren’t worth it to me. I also wonder if there are other consequences to this pricing model, similar to concerns about gamepads.
I prefer the high seas. I’m not sucking on some corpo teat just cause the head is one of the “good billionaires”.
The worst part of all this is epic used to be good, they made great games, supported modders, released tons of free content, went the extra mile etc. Then they went Microsoft and packed Games for Widows Live, which was so bad it killed the services subscription and the rest is history…I wish they were.
Paul Rudd is making a new movie?
Somewhere, in the far distance, if you listen closely… you can hear Conan Obrien having a meltdown.
Fuck I miss just having the game’s executable.
That’s gog, itch, or epic
Definitely not Epic? No idea where you got that. They downstall like Steam does. GOG and Itch, yes. I got Micro Mages off of itch and its a cool game.
A lot of games on Epic don’t have DRM (like GoG it’s developer opt in) so you can just launch the exe without opening Heroic
Same is true for games on Steam if the developer decides not to use Steam integration (some features like achievements are ok I think). For example Noita doesn’t need Steam running, you can just copy the folder to another machine AFAIK
also there are Steam emulators
Haven’t found any that don’t request Steam but, in that case we should only include itch
not entirely certain, but i think that applies to almost all steam features, not just achievements.
steam’s DRM, is, afaik, entirely opt-in.
so it’s entirely up to the, let’s be real, publisher wether they want to use it or not.
(although, again, afaik…)
My most played games lately are Vintage Story and Factorio. Both bought directly from the developers through their own website.
How are you liking vintage story? I’ve been trying to get into it but struggling lol
Pretty much finished all the content except the most recent update. Probably 1000+ hours, certainly 100s in it. Didn’t struggle too much but I have played it back since before seasons and food spoilage was in the game and I played a lot of TFC modded MC before I found VS which some of the mechanics are quite heavily inspired by.
Recently tried playing as a nomad for a bit, kept on the same save but dropped all my stuff and reset my character and went hunter class. Then went on a 100km expedition down through the warmer biomes and grabbed a bunch of seeds, like soybean and rice that can be a bit harder to get in the more temperate biomes. Took those back home with me.
I hate Epic Games simply on the principle that Tim Sweeney is an asshole. He despises Steam and yet he can’t make a better storefront. He sues Google and Apple so he can drive his little exotic cars around the block. Also he hates Linux gamers for whatever reason. No problem man, I don’t want to play Shitnite anyway.
I’m petty. I don’t like Sweeny because he declared PC was dead back during the Xbox era. Then decided PC wasn’t dead and came crawling back bringing his shit house store and console exclusivity bullshit with him.
Imagine having Fortnite money and all you can deliver is the EGS. Yeah free games are cool I guess but it’s like the laziest approach regarding actually engineering and developing a solution
I understand people like free stuff but how does it not immediately draw comparison to drug dealers giving out testers for free. When is free shit ever not nefarious?
Collecting
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creates
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accounts.
Fuck Epic, provide better service or fuck off. Using money to kill competition means they will turn around as soon as they can.
Don’t care that much as long as I get my free games. Also, nobody has the money to kill Valve. Maybe MS, but I doubt even they are ready to spend that much
They don’t have to kill Valve to appease publishers and sign shop-exclusive deals, making the PC gaming experience worse for everyone.
Whoever is still signing exclusivity deals with Epic hasn’t been paying attention.
“Using money to kill competition” you said though
They will kill anyone else, like GoG, or any attempted contender.
But if they could, they would kill Steam in a heartbeat.
I mean it’s a business yeah. If they could
I have plenty of epic free games. And I prefer to install fitgirl version of a game rather than epic’s one.
I don’t think I’ve ever installed any of those free games.
What is fitgirl
she is a repacker of pirated games.
why pack again? lossless compression?
Very high compression rate. Filesize of download can be less than half of the original in some cases.
At least they didn’t say the Microsoft Store
Henrycavill.meme
G*mers when you don’t use their monopolistic service: 😡
I’ve never had issues with getting refunds through steam. I’ve never successfully gotten a refund through epic.
you can enjoy your free games if you want, but it isn’t a better service and pretending otherwise is delusional.
Which one is bringing exclusives to PC and working against Linux gaming?
Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000’s?
Which one popularised micro transactions?
Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?
Which one popularised the current “Sell now, fix later” model
Which one bricks older titles because of it’s DRM requirements
(The answer is Steam btw, I know I’ll need to spell it out for G*mers)
If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever.
Microsoft popularised micro transactions, however they were never used, but DLC which they also popularised along with Sega and Sony adopted that name. Microtranactions were renting software where every time you opened the software or used a specific feature you would be charged a part of a cent, i.e. microtransactions
Loot boxes came from MMOs. The gambling thing Valve has certainly been a leader in.
Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.
Anything with DRM can stop older titles, Steam included. However this is normally after decades of use. This is why many people buy Single player games on GOG.
If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever
There were so many more platforms, now lost to time from G*mer who never knew any different and think 4 is a lot. IGN even had one.
Loot boxes came from MMOs
https://www.vg247.com/the-harsh-history-of-gaming-microtransactions-from-horse-armor-to-loot-boxes
but the first shot at them on the Western side of things was Valve’s Team Fortress 2. In June 2011, Valve transitioned the game to a free-to-play business model after the launch of the Mann-conomy update in 2010, which introduced crates and item trading. MMOs that fell on hard times, like Star Trek Online and Lords of the Rings Online, switched to the model when they went free-to-play as well.
Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.
Steam early access, and greenlight.
I’ll add they only offer refunds because the EU forced them and that at the time even EA offered better refunds, I don’t know now because I am detached from gaming these days.
It’s not even the worst. If Epic goes down, you have lost everything. If Steam goes down you have lost everything. If Gog goes down you have lost nothing (because you have a backup I hope).
If Steam goes down I have no problems torrenting games I’ve already paid for
That’s the thing: You paid for it, you should not be forced to illegally download anything.
Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000’s?
Epic has even more anti-consumer practices.
Which one popularised micro transactions?
Does Epic ban micro transactions?
Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?
None of this available on EGS either?
Which one popularised the current “Sell now, fix later” model
“The service that was around first did these things that the service that came later is also doing, that makes the service that came later better for some reason!”
Imagine being so Stockholmed that you miss the point that bad.
Imagine being so full of yourself that you think saying nothing has any value.
Fun fact: the term “Stockholm syndrome” originates from a hostage situation in which the authorities did not seem to care about the safety of the hostages at all, they regularly put the hostages in danger and the hostage takers were frequently trying to protect the hostages from the actions of the authorities.
In light of that, the hostages having more empathy towards their captors makes perfect sense. However ignorant people who did not understand the details of the event coined the term “Stockholm syndrome” instead of actually listening to the hostages or trying to understand a different point of view.Your use of the term feels very appropriate.
You are literally saying that the Epic store doing the same scummy things as Steam, makes it worse than Steam.
This is why gaming is in the shape it’s in.
Referring to Epic I presume?
ah yes the famous monopoly, the epic game store
The comment says monopolistic. Epic games does exclusives on PC. Does steam do this? Which one is monopolistic?
I get what you’re trying to say but that’s not what monopolistic means.
and comparing a new entrant to an established near-monopoly is ridiculous. does steam do this? no, why would it, most games are pretty much already exclusive to steam anyway. that’s not an apt comparison.
No. Obviously. I know G*mers aren’t smart but I’m clearly talking about Steam.
Dude can’t even spell “Gamers” and is complaining other people aren’t smart…
Epic gives away good free games from to time. While Steam is my primary, I still hop into Epic to play my free copies of Hell Let Loose and Fall Guys from time to time.
Yeah they periodically lose private information, such as adresses, email adresses and credit card information. But that’s the price you have to pay to get a “free” game.
Don’t have yo put in credit card info for the free games iirc
I could see that as being an annoyance if I had given them any payment information. I was already caught up in a major data leak that exposed my SSN and address over a decade ago, so my shit is out there and all I can do is monitor at this point anyways.
I can get the same games from the high seas for the same price and not provide Epic with an active account with which to entice investors.
High seas? Please educate an aged gamer who is out of the loop on what you mean.
Piracy
I ended up deleting my Epic account. It was full of free games that I had never played once and had no interest to.
I spent ages collecting the free games. Then the Steam Deck came along and I changed my PC to Linux. Then I repurchased all the games I wanted to play on Steam anyway. Then I don’t have to set up Epic or worry about save game sync.
Same except the push for me was in my “degoogling” process. Epic wouldn’t accept an email address from Proton. They said I needed a “legitimate email” and then locked my account till I provided one. That was the push I needed to dump them completely. Truly, I haven’t even thought about missing it since leaving.
My epic account uses disroot email, 0 issues. My wife has a mailo email.
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t accept it. Haven’t had that issue anywhere else. Even went back and forth with customer service through my old email and over telephone and got nowhere.
I am gaming happily on Linux though. Using both Epic and Steam. 👍
I know Epic can be set up. I just found it easier to spend a bit of money rather than time to set up Epic. I’ve distro hopped a bunch of times and needed to reinstall Steam OS on my Deck once. It’s just more convenient to get all my games on Steam.
spend a bit of money rather than time to set up Epic
🤷♂️
- Install Heroic
- Log in to Epic
I dunno man. Not sure I would re-buy everything if I were you, but it’s fine. I can relate to having everything in one place, for sure!
Heroic games is the easy way to do Epic Games Store. I actually prefer it to Steam for my library management. Somewhere along the line Steam became a bit of a resource hog.
Did them a favor.
