While browsing the fediverse I come across more and more accounts that seem … a bit off, a little uncanny. The stuff they post seems random, their comments slightly weird. What’s going on, is the fediverse being overrun by bots? Or am I as a fanatic anti-AI person just losing my mind and seeing the enemy everywhere?

I hate the fact that I now question every interaction that seems a bit off - it seems such a stupid waste of my time and I’m afraid I might just end up blocking real people who happen to express themselves in a strange way - as a neurodivergent person I know how bad I would feel about being ostracized as ‘too strange to be real’. How would you handle this?

  • schmorp@slrpnk.netOP
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    1 day ago

    The ‘why’ is what I am wondering about. If I were an evil fascist I would fill this place with bots to keep the lefties arguing with the void instead of going outside for direct action. Other than that, curious programmers watching their creations interact in the wild?

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      23 hours ago

      Lemmy is seriously not large or organized enough for anyone to consider it. An evil fascist organization has shit to do, like real oppression - not piddling about with a bunch of autists who call for revolution from their moms basements.

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      If I were an evil fascist I would fill this place with bots to keep the lefties arguing with the void instead of going outside for direct action.

      Sadly, there aren’t enough people here to make that worthwhile.

      Other than that, curious programmers watching their creations interact in the wild?

      Even with LLMs, getting appropriate responses is a bit of an effort. So is integrating with Lemmy. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that we’re really lazy, and it’s unlikely that there’s a significant volume of bot coders here.

      Just Google the number of Lemmy bots. There are disappointingly few.

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      Out of curiosity is your instance still federated with .ml or that other tankie haven I forget the name of. If so, yes you probably are seeing a lot of bots. It’s quite obvious when you look at downvote and upvoter brigades. Pretty unusual for five people to all vote within half a second of each other. Then to not see any other votes for a while.

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        Pretty unusual for five people to all vote within half a second of each other

        This is actually a consequence of how votes federate out. They go out in batches, all at once, after a little bit of a delay.

        I actually do also think that people are artificially trying to rig the votes about particular things (and frequently the admins catch some people doing it with careless obviousness), but this isn’t an indication, it’s more difficult to detect than that.

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        23 hours ago

        The “tankie” instances are the least likely to have bots. They’re the most vehemently anti-AI and the moderators most active in banning any kind of bot-like activity. Hexbear, the one that all the dronies clutch their pearls about most and accuse of brigading the most doesn’t even have downvotes - they are incapable of mass downvoting.

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        21 hours ago

        This post is a great reminder that when you people say “bot”, you just mean “people who disagree with me”

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          21 hours ago

          Wonderful way to put words in someone else’s mouth. Shift those goal posts a little further. I’m sure nobody will notice.

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            20 hours ago

            Shift those goal posts a little further. I’m sure nobody will notice.

            Lol, you don’t even know what the phrase “shift the goalpost” means, do you? You just saw it used on Reddit and think it’s some kind of magic spell that wins arguments

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              19 hours ago

              Low effort, replies. Garner low effort replies

              I’ll let Google answer this one for you

              Shifting the goalposts" is an idiom that means changing the rules or conditions of a situation, often in a way that is unfair or designed to make it more difficult for someone to achieve their goal. It implies that someone is deliberately making it harder for another person to succeed by moving the target or changing the requirements after the activity has already begun, according to several online dictionaries. Here’s a breakdown of what it means in different contexts: In general: It signifies a change in expectations or standards, often to the disadvantage of someone else. Imagine playing a game where the rules keep changing mid-game, making it harder to win. In an argument: It can refer to someone who keeps changing their stance or demands during a discussion to avoid conceding or to keep arguing. For example, if someone keeps adding new requirements after an agreement has been reached, they are shifting the goalposts. In the workplace: It can mean a manager changing performance expectations or job duties after the work has already started, without proper justification or compensation, says a business blog. In politics: It can describe a situation where a political party or leader changes their position or priorities to suit their current needs, potentially misleading the public or undermining previous promises, reports Forbes. In everyday language: It’s a negative term, implying unfairness and manipulation. People generally dislike when goalposts are moved because it creates a sense of instability and distrust.

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                19 hours ago

                I’ll let Google answer this one for you

                Answer what? I wasn’t asking you, I can see clearly you don’t know what it means, which is why you’re copy pasting walls of ai text (like a literal bot) to distract from the fact that you tried to invoke the phrase where it wasn’t remotely applicable because you think of it as essentially a magic incantation.