What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?
It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.
Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.
Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?
It was a fast moving process. Unclear when IMF interference demands for austerity were known. Russia did make a much better offer than EU, and Yanukovych was right to prefer it.
While there is an obvious pull among the young to get western values, CIA/US state propaganda operations to fabricate that opinion, was done purely for nazification and warmongering purposes. The idiocy of the public makes them resort to their programing. Not informed pragmatic study of all alternatives.
The nazi rulership, installed by US, immediately massacred opposition in Odessa, removed Russian language rights, and wanted to seize Crimean port out of Russian lease. Ukrainian naziism has become the new western liberal values, but most people don’t like nazis, and especially not their “subhuman labelled” targets for extermination.
Your previous post was dishonest as well.
I think you’re conflating two separate issues. The IMF was not involved in trade talks between the EU and Ukraine. It was when Ukraine was seeking loans but Yanukovych didn’t reject to ratify the EU bill because of the IMF.
To what end goal?
Is it so hard to believe that given the choice between closer ties to the EU or a gay hating, poverty stricken state run by robber barons and oligarchs, Ukrainians might have preferred the EU?
This isn’t a fair argument, I could say the same thing about you, and you could say the same about me. How can we find truth when we both believe the other is simply regurgitating programming from some shadowy propaganda source.
I’ll ask this: Do you feel yourself entrenched in these views or are you actually open to changing them through discussion?
This didn’t happen though.
This also didn’t happen.
Yes he was delaying ratification over obvious anger, and poor electoral math, surrounding austerity demands.
Yes. Manufacturing liberalism is easy because liberal freedoms are humanist. Good and smart people can want liberalism and trade diversification. Does the US empire spend $5B on an operation to increase but fucking, and enabling you to marry your buttfucker? No. The CIA creates division in nations purely to diminish enemies it needs as a demonic evil entity that needs enemies to justify budget, and needs corrupt CIA allegiant puppetry everywhere for championing US oligarchy dominance. Ukraine nazification and war path to current “diminish Russia to the last Ukrainian policy” was set with the 2014 coup.
I am entrenched in the pure demonic evil of US empire propaganda, and the evil in the lost souls who tolerate, accept and normalize its demonism. More importantly, your delusional propaganda denials does not impact Russia, and Russians, understanding of reality and understanding its imperative defense from demonic empire actions.
dozens of people died and nobody was prosecuted, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
this feels like you’re gaslighting, they made Ukrainian mandatory to use in public life, the only exceptions given were for EU languages and English. Russian, Belarusian and Yiddish did not get those exceptions.