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That’s not really ableism though.
i am very curious about your reasoning. is stigma bad? just generally speaking?
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when you say “authoritarianism is a mental illness” you mean it as an insult. this implies that you consider mental illness to be something that diminishes your value as a person, which is not true, and ableist
I get what you’re saying. I don’t really think we should call authoritarianism an illness, but what should we use when an extremist, like an antivaxxer, flat-earther or someone else actively denies reality?
And I don’t think mental illness is valued, and I think it is something that diminishes a person. It’s why we call it an illness.
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man antiyanks is really crazy today, don’t use slurs, dude :(
I mean, you can use any other insult, there are plenty to choose from.You can call them vile, ignorant, close-minded, delusional.
It diminishes a person in the sense that it diminishes a person’s abilities. Not a person as a whole because people with mental illnesses are worth as much as any other person.
Ah okay, so you’re upset about the distinction between those with mental illness and those without?
I thought you were defending mental illness itself as something that should be encouraged or whatever
Apart from you argueing in favor of ableism, which in and of itself is disgusting, the whole deleted comment is: „maybe that could be a way to justify the killing of what I define as authoritarian people“ and by authoritarian they mean extreme left, which they don‘t even understand. They‘re fascist, just like your community defending that take, cheering it on.
What‘s your defense, fascist?What‘s your opinion on that take, goat? or cm0002? let‘s hear it.I’m not arguing in favour of ableism, just asking what it means in this context because ableism is something that’s regularly up to interpretation, and it’s important we come to the same conclusions on what is ableist or not. I’m disabled and I’ve regularly been a victim of ableism and the many forms it takes, hence my asking.
Also thats not the whole deleted comment? I’m not sure where you’re getting that quote from.
And how’s this community or myself a fascist?
Maybe you‘re concern trolling, but you sure as fuck are not „just asking“, because the point has been correctly made and all you do is trying to destruct it to nothing. Ableism is not that complicated to decipher, as you make it out and in this case it‘s clearly that. You are a dishonest person and I wish you‘d be more sincere. But all you do is excusing hate speech in all it‘s forms in this very community.
We‘ve been there with dehumanization, on two occasions, you ignored it and distracted. We are now here with ableism. And what you do is you are talking it away, you throw it under the bus, so the greater point of „tankies deleting innocent comments“, when the comment in question itself can be considered hate speech, because it‘s fantasizing about the idea of finding excuses to kill a group of people, is hate speech in and of itself.
I think you are pretending to have trouble understanding, that what I put in quotes is a paraphrazation of the original comment. You again chose to play the naiv person only to muddy the waters; it’s a disgrace in favor of hate speech. You are willful ignorant to the point of malice. And here we are adding fantasizing about killing a group of people to the list of the hate speech you ignore.
I laid that out several times now. I‘m not interested in playing that game with you. You had ample opportunity to engage with my arguments.
E: Put simply, you ignore, defend and encourage hate speech towards an outgroup.
You can be a fascist with a disability. It‘s dumb, tho, but I offer you a change in perspective. But you fail to engage in any critique I put forward and therefore conclude, that you are acting in bad faith. Please start looking in the metaphorical fucking mirror.
I like to clear up miscommunication, which we’ve done, and have come to an understanding that mental illness doesn’t remove someone’s personhood. I originally thought that Renz was defending mental illness, that it’s something that doesn’t diminish somebody, hence my asking. Now we know what sort of ableism we’re referring to, because it’s frankly a broad topic, since disability comes in all shapes and sizes. I don’t know why you’re so conspiratorial about it.
How am I excusing hate speech? Show me if there’s hate speech in this community, and I’ll tackle it.
Also, no idea what sort of dehumanisation you’re referring to. If anything, aren’t you dehumanising me by calling me a fascist? Is this all just projection from you?
And where did killing people come from???
What are you even on about, dude? Like, where’s any of this stuff coming from?