I’m turning 41, but I don’t feel like celebrating.
Our generation is running out of time to save the free Internet built for us by our fathers.
What was once the promise of the free exchange of information is being turned into the ultimate tool of control.
Once-free countries are introducing dystopian measures such as digital IDs (UK), online age checks (Australia), and mass scanning of private messages (EU).
Germany is persecuting anyone who dares to criticize officials on the Internet. The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets. France is criminally investigating tech leaders who defend freedom and privacy.
A dark, dystopian world is approaching fast - while we’re asleep. Our generation risks going down in history as the last one that had freedoms -and allowed them to be taken away.
We’ve been fed a lie.
We’ve been made to believe that the greatest fight of our generation is to destroy everything our forefathers left us: tradition, privacy, sovereignty, the free market, and free speech.
By betraying the legacy of our ancestors, we’ve set ourselves on a path toward self-destruction - moral, intellectual, economic, and ultimately biological.
So no, I’m not going to celebrate today. I’m running out of time. We are running out of time.
what is up with this batshit insane post, i know this was written by some right wing facist, people like you are the reason it is like this
The free internet is already dead. Where has this guy been hiding that he didn’t know that.
Yeah censorship is rising but it’s not at 100% this is what is being spoken on
What I found most alarming about this whole thing: this post showed up in the Telegram app for me, in a banner. I don’t follow Durov’s channel. He decided to push it to every Telegram client regardless of whether they’re following him.
Mine looks weird 😄
This isn’t true. I did not receive it at all. I found this on a news website that basically screenshotted his post. Then I extracted the text and posted it here
This is true, I have got that banner too but refuse to join it;
Yeah for all the people saying its fake. I felt no need to respond to them. They can use a search engine.
Okay well, I did. It was on the iOS Telegram client, US phone number. Maybe Pavel pushed it only to certain clients.
The guy who made bank on Russian suppression of communication: “Europe is the problem.”
My message to Telegram CEO: Open source your shit and we’ll talk then about freedom and whatever marketing campaing you are on right now. Bye.
I don’t see why the CEO of Telegram is concerned about laws about scanning of private messages since the vast majority of the communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
You sheep are too attach to the people. The message is the point
Yeah the message is only half right.
A billionaire, with millions of followers. It’s useful for people to see the message and start understanding what is happening.
Your a happy little telegram bot aren’t you.
Beep boop how did you figure out my hidden identity? 🤖. Get real
Yes
this was the dude arrested because he let drug trafficking and csam go unchecked on telegram… so naturally it makes sense that he’ll lurch rightward.
He is not responsible for the user uploads. Telegram deletes illegal activity. If it’s a private group they don’t know what’s happening. CSAM has been on YouTube and they do little about it. But your masters didn’t tell you to hate Google yet.
I call bullshit show me the story where CSAM has been on YouTube.
Look up the rest yourself. Google hides most of the news about it. So they are useless to search it up
If it’s a private group they don’t know what’s happening
This is not true, group chats with more than two members on Telegram are NEVER encrypted. Telegram admins have full access to see the contents of these private chats, and have the ability to respond to court orders, but they were ignoring those requests. This is why he was arrested. Google/YouTube respond to court orders and do take stuff down, and actual encrypted messengers like Signal have no way to see the contents of the messages, which is why the owners and operators of these services have never been arrested.
They aren’t encrypted, hence why I never said they were. This is something your cooked mind imagined so you can argue with yourself.
Private Groups: Only members can see messages. Admins cannot view messages unless they are part of the conversation.
This means if “Crimegroup” has shady stuff in the group if no member snitched it wouldn’t be known for them to even delete it. While telegram (the company or workers) could look right in they would need to know it’s an illegal group first because luckily they aren’t spying on everyone by default
If messages aren’t end to end encrypted, then their contents of the messages can be intercepted by Telegram or any adversary who has access to Telegram’s systems. This is what the US Government was doing with Prism to suck in unencrypted data from ISPs without their knowledge. By not having end to end encryption, you have to trust that Telegram administrators are being truthful when they say they’re not looking at your messages, and that their systems are never compromised by crimegroups or nation states without Telegram’s knowledge.
True. It is a trust thing. Thats why I don’t trust telegram for privacy. But I use it to follow groups
it’s his service; he’s absolutely responsible or it. he was arrested because he DIDN’T do anything about it.
He was arrested because he didn’t stop people from having freedom of speech. He wasn’t and hasn’t been found guilty of anything.
posessing csam is not “freedom of speech”.
nevermind the fact that telegram repeatedly refused to join child protection against csam groups to address the problem of csam on their service.
Are you stupid on purpose? I’m saying thats the real reason they arrested him. They wanted to censor freedom of speech. Not scam
its everyone elses fault that he let csam unchecked on his app?
It’s the people who posted it fault. You think that one human can read everyone’s messages lol? They would need to spy on everyone and have millions of employees specifically looking for illegal activity.
People are so righteous but have done nothing to ensure that the Epstein files were revealed.
Oh yes it had nothing with him not doing anything about child porn nothing at all.
Correct.
The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets.
What an absolute loads of bollocks.
There has recently been 1 woman jailed for her tweets where she admitted to inciting violence, not because of free speech issues.
These libertarian wankers love citing that sole case (and make out that it’s “thousands, I tell ya!”) but will overlook that several Just Stop Oil protesters were jailed for 4 years just for holding a zoom call and anti-genocide protesters are being arrested and charged with terrorism offences just for writing on a bit of cardboard.
So just do ignore all the news reports and video of citizens filming the cops coming to arrest them over tweets. You people are so sheepish
I love when people call other people sheep because they don’t believe them but they are following other online like sheep.
I don’t follow this guy. I found him to be a pussy when the French government arrested him. I’m sharing the news as it relates to privacy and your very smooth brain may not have grasped it yet, but this is a small victory for spreading the corruption of these governments that are trying to censor information.
And if you paid any attention to those reports, you would know that the vast majority are where those people have been critical of the UK or other govts actions, especially surrounding Palestine and none have gone further with the exception of Asa Winstanley. The only reason the police have visited those people is because zionist like complaining about nothing until they get their own way.
The one that the commentor here was responding to was a clear case of inciting violence. The same with people like the constantly crashing out Graham Lineham, who was arrested by police because he was inciting violence against a protected class.
So while the UK govt is infringing on peoples free speech, its not the ones who are getting all the publicity. Theyre just a bunch of whining fuckwits who want to be able to threaten people without consequence.
Please do try to keep abreast of the situation rather than stomping in with big boots and looking like a fucking idiot.
she admitted to inciting violence
Why would she admit something like that… This sounds sus. You got a link?
Interesting… 2 years for an idiotic post. Interesting use of taxpayer money.
But these people allow pedos go free and live their best lives
“An idiotic post”
She was inciting people to burn down hotels housing vulnerable people. Some of those padeos you bleat about were at the protests while 60% of those arrested at a protest in Bristol have form as domestic abusers
Yes, all about protecting women and kids.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Pedos should be in prison or dead.
uK is like US a place where they got to live their best lives tho
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.
You should ask that of yourself. Youre the one who brought up paedos. Maybe you get all too muddled in your head and cant make a salient point?
Wasting resources to police speech in a country over ran with pedos like Andrew is clown behaviour
Only the rich ones that can fly on private jets to far islands.
It’s not his n first post you dolt.
Germany is what? Also the EU voted against chat control.
I partly agree with your point, but please state the facts precisely.
Also the EU voted against chat control.
They did not. It was just removed from the agenda for now.
OK, I didn’t know. But my point still is that we don’t have it (yet).
I recently heard a podcast “interview” of him by Lex Fridman and - while he’s for sure extremely intelligent and talented - it looks like he’s been infected with the “philosophical fit-bro ultra-liberist elitarianism” disease that is all the rage now, unfortunately.
The fuck that have to do with the message of them taking away freedom of speech and privacy?
The message (which appears as a banner in the Telegram app, too) is filled with overhyped “news” and generalization regarding freedom of speech. Since him being stopped and investigated in France, he’s gone pretty unhinged on freedom of speech, disregarding the complexity of governing bodies and the real effect of information without bounds.
He makes valid points and I’m not defending anyone, but he oversimplifies and misreads some topics.
You people are cartoon characters truly. He was arrested by the whole French government because they wanted him to crack down and report users as well deleting post. It doesn’t get more direct to reality than that. It’s a quick post so it will be simplier than an essay or a speech given at a lecture.
I have the feeling you’re not really reading what I’m writing, you want to clash instead of discuss, but I’ll go on: I fully agree that taking him in custody and pressuring him to close unwanted channels is wrong and can deter startups and investments in the social network field in Europe, but Russia is a real threat and they are using all the tools possible to manipulate opinion (in Moldova for example) and create chaos. So pretty understandable that the French tried it. But he puts it like Europe and Russia are on the same level of media and chat control, and they are not. Nonetheless, there is a drift in that direction and we should uphold the free speech rights. All in all, I welcome his message!
This is what this user does, for the record. They don’t care about anything anyone else says, they must be 100% correct or they turn to insults. You may want to block them if you care about actual discussion.
Do you have a link to a source for this?
Posted this on his Twitter account: https://x.com/durov/status/1976420399970701543
And he posted it to his Telegram channel, too: https://t.me/durov/452
