I mean working somewhere like Qualcomm or Microsoft when you care about FOSS, democracy, and the public commons, or a weapons manufacturer for a military that invades other countries and kills innocent people in their homes.

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    Maybe stop huffing fatalism. its not good for you.

    I gave clear and simple things that can be done by anyone with a minimum amount of effort to improve things. That’s all it takes to be moral, to be willing to improve things.

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      You’re right. Small steps matter, and I’ve made plenty myself to live and work more ethically. But that’s not what your original comment said. You said:

      the ideal scenario would be that you exit that situation as quickly as possible

      You suggested an oversimplified binary situation. That’s simply not realistic for most people. Suggesting be a half-ass employee isn’t meaningful advice either.

      A better way to approach this is to recognize that everyone has a moral line they need to define for themselves, and to regularly reflect on whether their work crosses it. If it does, they can decide whether leaving is feasible, or start moving toward something more aligned with their values.

      “Just quit your job” is not an answer. As The Good Place illustrated perfectly, modern life makes it impossible to be entirely moral. They highlighted that by buying a simple tomato you are indirectly supporting big farming, greenhouse gas emissions, unfair labor practices, even slave labor. By participating in society at all you are an immoral person.

      So yes, we should all try to do better, but we also need realistic paths, not platitudes.

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        I was wondering how far I’d have to scroll to find a The Good Place reference. Thank you for your contribution.

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        The idea of being a slow and ineffectual worker is a well-known concept in the CIA’s counterintelligence operations manual.

        It is a known and tried and proven method of destabilizing government organizations and institutions.

        Apparently, I’m coming off as a dick, and that’s definitely not my intention. I’m sharing the information that I have.

        If it doesn’t get received well, oh well. That’s on me for not communicating it effectively.