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  • I’ve lived long enough where I definitely see this as the reason.

    It starts with one person saying “hey wait, if we do this thing we waste a little less!”. Good intentions and idea. It grows and catches on. Companies see that and see the triple hitter: they can

    • reduce overhead costs by not doing the wasteful thing
    • go on a PR blitz making it look like they’re doing amazing things, people clapping all the way
    • continue charging the same amount.

    Happens all the time. Tipping is the best example. You feel bad for the driver or server so you tip a little more. Companies see this and make it easier for you to tip, saying they really value their workers and want to let you tell them. Meanwhile they do nothing for actual pay, screwing you and the employees at the same time.




  • My main ask then because it does matter is how many real trees cut down is the equivalent. As said it’s done for me, artificial tree is up right now so moving forward it doesn’t make sense for me to abandon that. For those who don’t have one though, how long would they have to own the artificial tree?

    I’ll admit I’m skeptical of the statement because it’s a common technique that has been used to prevent people from choosing greener alternatives. The great EV debate has been plagued with it, with people bellowing that the cost of mining the minerals means you should just drive ICE cars when in reality if your EV rolls over 15,000 miles you’ve officially hit the tipping point.

    Same thing with new stoves, water heaters, a lot of pro-oil will claim “Well manufacturing alone means that you’re actually hurting the environment, you wouldn’t want to do that now would you?” and put the blame back on the consumer when in reality most of those purchases become carbon neutral usually after a year or two of standard use. Now for the trees if it’s 20 years… maybe. Even then I wonder about the potential of those 10’ fir trees growing into full adult trees and what we cut short by cutting them down. (Granted I know most are farmed now, but even then, it’d have be be multiple decades for it to make sense in my book)