Very cool technology!
I asked about them earlier this evening and was considering getting their new printer. I didn’t really need one, anyway. They just seem fun.
You know what isn’t fun? Genocide. Fuck genocide supporters.
Genocide actually seems really fun if you have enough coke.
Still fuck them though, yes.
Obviously fuck Israel but I have a bit of a different gripe with this thing.
I got into 3d printing to reduce waste, mainly to repair old stuff but plastic waste is still something I try and reduce as much as possible. This toolhead is a plastic wasting machine, not a printing one. I cannot for the life of me justify buying not one but two long thin tubes of liquid only to split the tube in half and only use the goo inside. And then they have the audacity to charge fucking $1100 for it. The XL is already overpriced for it’s performance, this is just adding insult to injury.
https://www.prusa3d.com/product/original-prusa-xl-silicone-printing-toolhead/
This is the direct link. So it is true. I’ll contact them to ask for details. This is unacceptable.
Is there any connection between this startup and the government? I won’t support a company that supports the Israeli government, financially or otherwise. But if it’s just a startup that happens to be run by Israeli people, can someone explain why that should affect anything? I don’t support the US government but I would still support American startups
All Zionists are guilty.
2 points: First, considering that the majority of Israelis support what’s happening in Gaza, I’d seek affirmative evidence that they are in the minority opposition. More importantly, unfortunately, is the fact that to the degree that they are successful and make money, their taxes and economic contributions will benefit a government and system that is actively engaging in a genocide of Palestinians, and in the best of time merely oppresses them.
It sucks to have to catch people for are individually decent in a larger boycott, if that is even the case here, but I don’t really see how to disentangle them from the larger Israeli system which, if it continues unchecked, will kill or push out every Palestinian in the West Bank and Gaza.
Yes. Any startup in Israel is built on stolen Palestinian land, and Israeli universities are highly connected to the IDF. Israeli startups get a lot of Israeli government funding in general, often paid by Europe or America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions
All corporations in the US are built on stolen native American land. The US is currently run by a fascist pedophile.
No one should support solari’s maker space because it supports a fascist pedophile and their maker space is literally on stolen land.
There are Israelis who don’t support the genocide. If that company is one of those, it would be important to support them.
The vast majority of Israelis are pro-genocide and there are stats to back this up. Also, the genocide in Palestine is currently ongoing and not hundreds of years old. That’s the difference.
That’s true but the difference is that the US is not currently actively committing a genocide, to expand their territory for example by slaughtering Mexicans or Canadians.
The original owners of Palestine are all still alive and there is no peace agreement signed to divide the land between the colonizer and colonized.
Americans are also not required to join their military and participate in said genocide. Israelis are. I can’t find any comment of the company or its CEO objecting the genocide so it’s safe to assume they are fully on board.
ICE is ethnically cleansing the country literally right now.
If ICE was oppressing and genociding Americans the same way Israel is doing Palestinians, the 2nd amendement would be outlawed already.
It is, in fact, illegal for undocumented immigrants to own guns.
Being an undocumented immigrant is not exactly the same as a native inhabitant who is being ethnically cleansed. I’d love to live in a Kumbaya world without borders but this is a dick move, not genocide.
Wake me up when the “resistance” organisation isn’t called DSA
The vast majority of their population doesn’t care about the genocide, the vast majority served in the military, there are almost no civilians in that invasion.
Why would you, if you have any ethics, partner with people with a massive chance of being pro genocide unless there is no other option in the world?
Also if it’s money going to their economy, to be converted directly into dead bodies.
Aight, Prusa’s out. Won’t be choosing them for our community makerspace any longer
The open source stuff aren’t as polished but they don’t want me dead so I guess that’s an easy decision to stop looking at Prusas for me.
Lmk your next pick
everyone wants to join the dark side
I had noticed how their ethical standard seemed to be going down from the kind of spam from them I’ve been getting. But I held then to such high regard for their old open source contributions that I refused to believe.
Thanks a lot for that into. I think I’m convinced now. No one with any ethics would partner with any Israeli company unless there was literally no other choice in the world.
I’d rather use proprietary products.
There are open source options besides Bambu. Such as Sovol SV08.
I’d rather use proprietary products.
Where did that come from? How about the Ender 3 or a UltiMaker or a Lite3DP Gen 2 or even a DIY one?
Ah yeah, I meant if I had to chose between the options. To illustrate that that’s a greater evil.
Sure, but please we mindful that if you do that it implies there are no more non proprietary options, which is just not true (even though the constraints are different I admit).
Let’s help each other find, or even build if nothing else is available, the lesser evil ;)
I know there are other options. It was just hypothetical.
But no way. Just building the prusa mini was way harder than I thought. Took me days and I messed up many things. I wouldn’t try something even harder. Not that I have any way of having a 3d printer anymore… I’m trying to sell my prusa because of that. But I’ll stop trying to convince people to buy prusa.
unless there was literally no other choice in the world.
Literally in the picture are the words “world’s first”
There’s the choice of not selling this. It’s not like it will be crucial to them.
I’m sure there are a lot of areas in spying software, for instance, that israel offer unique and lucrative products. But I have the choice to invest on something else instead.
We’re talking about genocidal maniacs here. There’s not a lot of excuses to support them.
TIL that my FDM printer should now be called FFF - because Stratasys owns the trademark of the term “FDM,” and has been known to abuse folks who try to use that term.
Coincidentally, Stratasys is also Israeli.
Oh, you white Israel. Remember: the Palestinian genocide is actually about white european jews attacking the native population, including native “darker skinned,” jews. But they want us to believe if you feel that way you are anti-Semitic
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Damn it! i was just about to order one of their core printers.
Are there any non-nazi, non-facist 3d printer companies out there?
There’s always Creality.
I don’t know that they’re good. But so far I haven’t seen anything about them being evil? I’m open to being wrong, though.
Its Chinese. It basically is built using slave labour
My point is not that it’s bad but that you’ll find issues with any technology manufacturer
I don’t know anymore. “Companies” is the key word there. Depending on how far you want to go to hold to your values, you might have go all the way back to scratch building a RepRap.
Before anybody asks, no, I’m not being sarcastic. That might be what it takes these days.
