I’m not surprised that they are against it but very surprised that they so blatantly expose their reasoning. If you don’t buy my product, it’s not good for me, therefore it is not a good idea 🤷

It’s a sliding slope though. The initial reasoning is fair. But it will eventually spread to other features like (potentially) creating and owning servers or holding administrative and moderation roles

It’s the same with the chat control currently looking over EU. Nobody can say that they are against efforts to stop CSAM. The issue is that the efforts don’t limit themselves to fighting that. Likewise the age verification on Discord does not seem to be targeted or limited to certain content. They are leaving the door open to use it any way they want

The real problem is, that the majority of users won’t change, and it’s the users that make Discord. There could be a much better alternative but if users are too lazy to change, it is worth nothing.

This is the case with Facebook messenger too. There are great alternatives, but it’s messenger that has the userbase

The problem is not the lack of alternatives but the lack of users using the alternatives

I need specifications…

Are water fountains the ones that point water upwards? Or generally any tap water?

I think you missed the point of this - I don’t mind down votes.

I am just surprised that (some) users will actively use third party software to identify who made them, and then confront them publicly

I agree - I was just surprised to be confronted publicly by a user, for down voting a post. Not that I didn’t want to be exposed, but that people actually could look it up

But they are not public. You need third party websites or special privileges to see them.

For true transparency there should be a list with voting interaction on each post and comment

I agree that it is good with transparency, but then this should also be freely available on the Lemmy platform, and even the clients, in the same way as modlogs list what is going on.

I knew that admins could somehow go into the database and check who has done what, but I assumed that this was only the admin, and maybe even that the info was encrypted. It’s alright with me that it’s not, but then why not display it on each post and comment, with a list of interactions to it.

In this case, it’s this post:
https://quokk.au/comment/3048088

Although, the comment where people were being called out, may have been removed (not sure if it’s because I have blocked the user, or they have blocked me)

You can have messenger without Facebook. At least it’s possible in the EU

You are welcome to feel any way you want about me 👍

I feel like the devs should then have a visible overview of who has up- or down voted each post and comment then. Similiar to the mod log.

It’s weird that it only take into account what your reactions are, and not the content that you share. If you down vote negativity, but share content that is upvoted, you still get a negative ratio

Personally i only use youtube to doomscroll “shorts” because I don’t have facebook, instagram or tik tok for that. It’s really no pleasure as such, but a good way to just turn wind down.

My main issue is that most of the information and knowledge that i used to get from reading blog posts, or forum threads, has become videos, with the majority of the content being irellevant

This is the point though. Its it’s hidden by the platform, I feel like exposing it in public is against the sentiment

If voting was public through Lemmy and its clients, it would be more open and not only partly anonymous

I had assumed that if voting activity was meant to be public, there would have been a feed like the mod logs, for each users activity

Create multiple accounts on different instances

Isn’t that manipulation too?

I had expected reactions to be encrypted, as it’s not a build in feature of Lemmy itself. If it was, I feel like it should have been visible, just like the modlog. There must have been a reason why the Lemmy devs don’t show a list of who up votes or down votes

In this case, the post popped into my “all” feed. I have no idea about neither sides, but I down voted on the design of the poster, for not making this clear. I may be a design freak, to down vote on something like this, just based on that, but getting wrapped into a discussion about being racist just because of a down vote feels quite extreme

Downvoting is a mental disorder

I feel like this is what upvotes and down votes are for though. Expressing that you agree, like, or don’t like what someone is doing, or saying is not a mental disorder. I have been on the internet long enough, to know that starting a discussion about something, is almost never really worth it. I do feel that I should be able to join in on a general sentiment of approve or disapprove on a platform like this.

Should you have a right to leave an anonymous message on his car about the style of his shirt?

You compare online behavior with real life, and this is not relevant. But to put it into context, I see upvotes and down votes more like cheering or booing in a sports game. It’s just an expression of what you feel for the content. A reaction. You wouldn’t explain why you are booing at the opposing team when they score a goal

I had assumed that this was somehow encrypted. Especially as it is not a build in feature of Lemmy itself, to show who has reacted in certain ways