I think PieFed allows a community mod to set that behavior for a specific community, or an admin for the instance, to rely upon “trusted instances”, which would be defined however the admin likes, e.g. exclude Lemmy.ml from it without fully defederating from it. But I could be wrong here, I have no first-hand experience there.
So… not fine then, after all.
Except I’ve never once seen a place that actually enacts that policy.
Btw tankies claim that anyone who isn’t a tankie is almost literally a Nazi, hence we are a Nazi bar in their eyes (particularly Lemmy.World), while we are a tankie bar in the eyes of anyone else.
Which I guess makes Lemmy.ml “not” a Nazi bar? (In their own eyes at least, somehow despite their rooting for Trump)
People here are also more vehement in their beliefs. Like if I say that I am a vegan but eat dairy products, some people here will outright tell me to kill myself. Also, many people here literally state “death to the USA”, which does feel somewhat exclusionary and contentious, just a little.
Tbf, most of those choices are opt-in, these days. There was a huge outcry demanding that.
So now, as always before, it is your choice if instance admin that matters much more than choice of platform.
Plus there’s PyLova too! It flat-out removed those choices from the code altogether.
Just like here, if you sort posts by Hot or Top.
Do you have a source!
Blaze had calculated that at some point. It was quite awhile ago so that could have changed radically since then but… based on all of my personal experience things seem to mostly be moving in the opposite direction. e.g. as mander.xyz and slrpnk.net are both down (hopefully just temporarily), and smaller communities struggling mightily hence people remain in the biggest ones.
One example is !tenforward@lemmy.world retaining 5.77K MAUs compared to its offshoot !tenforward@piefed.world with just 0.08K MAUs. And I mentioned others like !nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social previously. You likely see this happening all across the entire Threadiverse. We cannot support much niche content so it generalizes instead. The trends towards centralization are not being counter-balanced as much as previously by trends away from that.
It does seem believable to me though, that separately from all MAUs, the number of existing communities that people post into are concentrated on LW. Again, there was a huge shift to try to spread them around, but that was before the Flotilla began threatening to split the Threadiverse in two in consolidation with anarchist.nexus, and I for one tend not to post into communities located on dbzero anymore (I am not like morally opposed to such, but I just don’t try to prioritize it as I once used to).
doesn’t appear to be actively antagonistic.
That is probably due to your having blocked a lot of it? But if you narrowly mean between AN & DB0 vs. LW then yeah to that much. Although I recall reading in the DB0 meta community that the call to defederate from LW was postponed: (1) for something like half to one year, for preemptively defederating then - i.e. this calming down period was intentional yet a vote as to whether to continue was still on the schedule even in the heat of it all, and also (2) separately from that, virtually a guarantee to happen if any single member of the Flotilla ever gets defederated from, I think this one not merely by LW but by any instance whatsoever, anywhere. That is no mere threat about some future vote that may or may not happen - that is outright policy, a settled matter, iirc.
Again, not that any of this stuff is easy to keep up with, even by us here, to say nothing of newcomers.
All the “non-aligned” instances (not neo-liberal, not ml, not anarchist) is like 50% of the threadiverse and they would still see everything.
That assumption might not be true. If the Flotilla defederates not merely from LW but from any instance that remains federated with it, then the schism would be wide indeed. But we’d have to read more the Flotilla policy to see (again) their stated aims. I forget the likelihood of this being true, but it’s definitely nonzero and more than just a vague conspiracy theory - whether it actually happens or not, people were most definitely clamoring for exactly that to occur, and it was not a fringe opinion iirc. Then again, after the cooling period, things probably will look different, so most likely the most extremist opinions will be drowned out by those wanting the greater convenience of remaining connected.
I will now go read your post:-).
You are thinking of Santa Claus 😉
It’s more a state of mind. Perhaps switch longwise one for resting, the other only for sleep?
Only one? What about Slack?
Even WhatsApp does all that you said, and has a webpage view.
Yes do that, and then email it to me.
- your clueless boss, who earns twice what you do so must be twice as super ineteilgnent (sic)
Team is also down (ymmv).
The Voyager app does not show it. When selecting to view the sidebar it shows a different image instead - the Lemmy mouse thing, but no colorful logo.
Which itself is part of the wonderment of this place, which looks so different to each of us depending on how we choose to access it?
Agreed about FiniteBanjo but iirc that definitely was not the only one - and it makes sense that a mod would rather ban some singular individual (especially if only for a day or two) rather than lock an entire post over such. Reddit offers the ability to lock a particular thread within a post (including I believe replies underneath it?), but I forget if that is possible in Lemmy or not. The tools tend to be significantly more primitive here, even if not enshittified for reasons of profit, just shit instead for reasons of not enough effort put in as compared to a multi-million dollar corporation hiring full teams of dedicated programmers. And then add the constraints of requiring working within the ActivityPub Protocol to enact federation and it becomes clear how much more difficult this task is to not merely replace Reddit but expand beyond it.
Though the end users rarely seem to care about such things and instead simply want everything handed to them for free. That is what they were trained into becoming by an advertising driven model of the internet, and they see no reason to be anything else.
About the death threats; I never said that the threat was personal and direct. And actually I had forgotten about whatever accusations were faked or whatever, though that’s besides the point for my own topic here. Vague and unspecified death threats are still calls for literal violence and portrayals of a lawless mindset that encourages such. Which some of us here on the Threadiverse very much like, while others of us here are the opposite and merely tolerate it, but your average Redditor trends more towards having been groomed to enjoy the walled garden effect, or else has already been here. In any case I was pointing towards the death threats as evidence of disorder and fighting that leads away from stability, which in turn increases greatly the complexity of the Threadiverse that is mandatory to be understood prior to joining us here.
e.g. when/if the Flotilla defederates from Lemmy.world, that will impact a great many people. LW has >90% of the most active communities, and of the rest many have ended up via various migration effects on an instance that is a member of the Flotilla. New members will in virtually no way be guided into understanding any of this, leading to such posts as e.g. the recent one in Fediverse expressing absolute shock at having been banned from Lemmy.ml - as if that wasn’t a practically daily event here (or at least definitely would be if we had a sufficient populace to keep up that rate). We are fast falling into fragmentation, since we cannot maintain mutual respect. And especially if evidence really was being outright faked (I have no idea?), then all the more so.
I am not trying to suggest that such an action would signal the death knell for Lemmy, but the fact that it seemed imminent at one point and in fact is still high likely does not exactly signal health either, particularly in terms of a mindset of growth as opposed to mere existence.
I also am not opposed to decentralization, particularly since that’s already what we have now, but we should somewhere EXPLAIN this to new joiners. Although many years into this project, I haven’t really seen even the first steps towards such a thing. The PieFed instance selector came the closest to it and even sparked in me a hope that it would meet that need, but progress on that seems to have been abandoned and suggestions for PieFed to improve it have gone ignored for something like a year or so now. I doubt it will ever be carried forward, in that venue.
Agreed about the swimming pool illustration regarding onboarding, except it’s far worse than that even: we here all learned GENTLY as the waters slowly rise about us, so we each picked up a few new concepts as the years trickled (or sped?) past us. New joiners are being asked to suddenly learn all of it at once, and even worse than that besides, to do so prior to making an account. One example: if you visit Lemmy.ml without an account you will see a Local listing of posts, which I believe is the software default for all newly created instances. Potential new joiners are not shown what is possible from observing that instance, unless they poke around sufficiently enough to notice the All button and see federated content as well. Another example is that I know of no possible way to view an instance’s set of rules from within Voyager. That entire sidebar might as well not exist for people using Voyager, which unfortunately also seems the most likely scenario for a new joiner coming here from Reddit?
I don’t like questionaires, but something along the lines of the PieFed instance picker where the information is all laid out, filtering is possible based on it, and sentences explain the various choices possible would be a great way forward, if someone were willing to take up that project.
Yes, non-phone browser offers by far the best experience, but also doesn’t fit into every workflow so that’s the downside. Ofc it depends on what you want from the Threadiverse - long conversations about philosophy and poetry (I’ve done that! Using a laptop definitely was mandatory for it!!) vs. doomscrolling through shitpost memes to take a mental break between things at work or home (taking a break from bigger screen to stare at small screen).
Well OP would like to, if allowed.
No no it’s 100% of the time, though it is only correct 40% of those times.
“Sad”
Thank you for correcting me. A lot of the so-called “hard-coded” stuff that people accused PieFed of having ended up not being hard-coded at all, and in fact was opt-in, so even less mandatory than opt-out. But I see from the link that some of the blocks are indeed still opt-out so I need to adjust my thinking.