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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 3 months ago

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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 3 months ago
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    Except solar. And wind. And hydro.

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      Some solar is also boiling water

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          Isn’t salt like the main bees knees these days?

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            I don’t know, but the Ivanpah solar power station near Primm NV, which is a set of three molten salt towers is reportedly getting decommissioned, removed, and replaced with PV panels. Word is PV technology had improved in efficiency and stopped in cost enough that the whole molten salt thing is no longer economically viable, at least in comparison.

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              I’m assuming ceramics to the rescue?

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          :D

          Something all the way down something

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        And zapping birds!

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          They did fix that pretty quickly, but what a classic mad scientist blunder that would turn a well meaning researcher into a villain in any action hero film.

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        And some fusion is direct to current in coils. The z-pinch style approaches mainly.

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        that’s why IMHO it’s more important to classify the core coupling mechanism (e.g. photoelectric effect, electromagnetic effect) instead of classifying the total energy in -> energy out types.

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        My local solar steam generator was shut down years ago as it was no longer worth testing direct reflector material anymore — even if they had gotten perfect reflectivity they couldn’t compete with photovoltaics anymore

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      Expect for solar, it’s all just flowy stuff through spinny stuff: wind, water, steam. GRAAAAAAAAAA

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        Good ol’ mill.

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        Spinny stuff is basically the universe on all scales, so it makes sense. And that’s fucking cool, IMO.

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        Solar is very tiny flowy stuff through very tiny spinny stuff

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        you forgot the electrochemical battery

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      And wind.

      wind is just the effects of premade steam

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      Hydro also uses steam

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        In liquid form?

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          Condensed steam.

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          It’s still the same turbine shit

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            It’s all turbines, but quite dissimilar turbines.

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      and fuel cells

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        And waves/tidal, but now we’re getting into the really niche types.

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          i knew i was forgetting something

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      I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind. Definitely for Hydro, though.

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        “Power Plant” won’t be a fitting term until we can generate electricity (at a viable scale) from chloroplasts.

        And wouldn’t that just be solar with extra steps?

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          fun fact: chloroplasts generate an electric potential across the cell membrane during photosynthesis. essentially, they have membrane proteins in their chloroplast membranes that push electrons from one side of the membrane to the other side whenever a photon hits the protein. It’s essentially a natural photovoltaic cell.

          That electric potential is then used to create ATP in nature, while we just directly extract the electrical power through cables.

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          Even better if you can use it to power a humanoid robot for a real world plant golem.

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            Isn’t that the goal?

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          You should look at mitochondria:

          • The power plant of the cell.
          • Runs on a proton-gradient.
          • ATP synthase is essentially a molecular turbine and a generator.
          • oh. a turbine. Damm thing spins ~18000 rpm at medium throttle, pumping out elec- ATP. ATP.

          Oops… it’s turbines all the way down.

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            runs on proton gradient

            So I can launch it from Lutris?

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        I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind

        Why not?

        The First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy Cannot Be Created or Destroyed

        Fossil fuel power plants merely convert chemical energy into another type.

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          Just that “power plant” I think most people associate with large enclosed facilities that house power generating equipment, which doesn’t quite describe wind and solar farms. Hence that most people refer to them as “farms”.

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      And theoretically a massive proton exchange plant.

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      Isnt hydro in a small part powered by steam just post condensation steam.

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        I do enjoy a nice glass of post condensation steam on occasion

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      Are these really power plants? I thought they were called field or farm or something else

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