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    3 days ago

    So what do you call 10x3, exactly? I’ll wait

    Not important. It’s an example, not explicit. If I asked for an explicit reference for the meaning of the word “table”, a source that discusses carpentry but never uses the word itself is not explicit. Do you need me to explain in more detail what “explicit” means? Do you need me to explain why I’m demanding you find an explicit reference?

    I, for one, am content that there is no such explicit reference for your interpretation of the meaning of the word multiplication. If you are finding it difficult to find one but are still convinced, that’s fine - just fulfill one of the other options you have to demonstrate it’s worth holding a discussion about mathematics.

    Your second reference says “when multiplications are denoted by juxtaposition, as in 4c ÷ 3ab”. Very interesting. Maybe we can discuss that after you demonstrate it’s worth it.

    Further down you have again quoted (but not highlighted) the section which says “other rules than those just described might have been adopted” which, again, is interesting.

    • Not important

      Says person who said…

      None of the screenshots you put in that reply even use the word “multiplication”,

      So let me help you out…

      It’s an example, not explicit.

      It explicitly says “Multiplication” at the bottom of the page! 😂

      If I asked for an explicit reference for the meaning of the word “table”, a source that discusses carpentry but never uses the word itself is not explicit

      And this page does use the word “Multiplication”. Are you seeing yet why I kept telling you to read more than 2 sentences? 😂

      Do you need me to explain in more detail what “explicit” means?

      Do you need me to explain in more detail what “read more than 2 sentences” means?

      I, for one, am content that there is no such explicit reference for your interpretation of the meaning of the word multiplication

      And yet there it is, right there on page 23. Who would thought? Oh yeah, people who have read more than 2 sentences out of the whole book 😂

      Your second reference says “when multiplications are denoted by juxtaposition, as in 4c ÷ 3ab”. Very interesting.

      Yeah, 1912 textbooks are “very interesting”, much more so than modern textbooks which never call it such 😂

      Maybe we can discuss that after you demonstrate it’s worth it

      I already pointed out the problem with your not reading more than 2 sentences out of a textbook again there

      “other rules than those just described might have been adopted” which, again, is interesting

      It’s not actually, if you know the history behind that comment, which I have no doubt that you don’t

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        3 days ago

        You’re using different screenshots this time? Well done, you’ve progressed to ones that include the word, but unfortunately you seem to have forgotten the task. Try again!

        • You’re using different screenshots this time?

          Nope. Exact same page I already referred you to before, page 23.

          Well done, you’ve progressed to ones that include the word

          Just like the ones that include the word “Product”, eh? 🤣🤣🤣 Well done for reading beyond 1 sentence this time by the way. Now go back to the other ones and read beyond 1 sentence - you’ve just shown you’re capable of it

          unfortunately you seem to have forgotten the task

          Not me - the difference between axb is Multiplication, as per page 23, and ab is a Product, as per page 36. Still waiting on you doing your task of explaining how they give 2 different answers when, according to you, they are “the same thing” 🙄

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            3 days ago

            The screenshot you started off with is a crop of the one you’re now talking about, so yes, different screenshots.

            I’m curious - can you admit to that, even?

            • The screenshot you started off with is a crop of the one you’re now talking about, so yes, different screenshots

              Same page. you having trouble finding page 23, or you didn’t even look for it? BTW I left it out quite deliberately and asked you what you would call it, and you didn’t answer, then claimed that “they” (the textbook authors I presume) “they are certainly not saying explicitly that ab is not a multiplication or that a multiplication is different from a product, are they”, and yes, they most certainly are saying that, which you would know if you had read the textbook. 🙄 You, the person who only read the underlined parts in screenshots, even though I repeatedly said to keep reading in order to avoid this embarrassment, then followed that up with “This level of reading comprehension is what got you here”. Yep, this level of reading comprehension - you not reading the textbook, only the underlined parts of screenshots - is indeed what got you here 🙄

              I’m curious - can you admit to that, even?

              Can you admit that you’re basing your whole argument on only reading what I underlined in screenshots and not, you know, actually reading the textbook? 🙄

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                2 days ago

                I said “different screenshots, then” and you said “no, same page” and when I pushed you to agree that they were different screenshots, you couldn’t even do that.

                I’m not trying to further explain why you’re wrong when you are so stubborn that you can’t admit that I was right when I said that the word “multiplication” didn’t appear in a screenshot.

                Thanks for demonstrating it even better than you had before!

                • you said “no, same page”

                  Yes, me, the person who urged you repeatedly to read more so that you could’ve avoided this whole embarrassment to begin with, and thus gave you yet another chance to read what it said, but you were too stubborn, and so here we are, you being embarrassed because you refused to read one page of a textbook 🙄

                  you couldn’t even do that

                  says person who has admitted to nothing ever. 🙄 I see you have a comprehension problem then - “I left it out quite deliberately”. Not sure how you think it magically appeared in the same screenshot 😂

                  I’m not trying to further explain why you’re wrong when

                  you can’t, because I’m not 🙄

                  you are so stubborn that you can’t admit that I was right

                  says person who is too stubborn to admit that I was right about…

                  • “Multiplication”
                  • the first calculator not evaluating left to right
                  • everything else I’ve provided textbook screenshots of

                  and also hasn’t been right about anything yet 😂

                  I said that the word “multiplication” didn’t appear in a screenshot

                  No you didn’t. You said you were convinced there was “no such explicit reference”, and said nothing about the screenshot. Should’ve read the textbook, like I kept telling you 🙄

                  Thanks for demonstrating it even better than you had before!

                  What you’ve demonstrated is…

                  • not reading the textbook
                  • thus making up stuff as a result of not having found out you were wrong, per the textbook
                  • having poor comprehension skills
                  • refuses to do anything asked, on the pretence of made-up excuses after the fact
                  • won’t admit to being wrong about anything
                  • changes what you claim to have said, to avoid admitting being wrong, even though it’s easy enough to scroll back and find that wasn’t what you said at all. 🙄 See screenshot 😂
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                    1 day ago

                    What I said was

                    none of the screenshots you put in that reply even contain the word multiplication

                    Then you replied with different screenshots. When I pointed that out, you said “no”, and are still here.

                    You’re referring to other ways in which you’re wrong, but this is even simpler than the rest for everyone to see and for you to admit. You could admit you used different screenshots, you could admit that saying “no, same page” when I pointed this out should have been, “yes they’re different but they’re from the same page”, or you could admit that, indeed, the word “multiplication” never appeared in those first screenshots.

                    Go on, cough up literally one thing. I did it already, as a show of good will, you can do it too!