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    Cancer is something Boomers fear because many of them will die from it. Climate change isn’t anything they have to really worry about because they left it for their kids to deal with.

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    Most of the boomers I knew growing up acknowledged climate change.

    They also acknowledged that they didn’t care because they wouldn’t be around long enough to feel the severe effects of it.

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      I’ve never heard anyone say that about climate change, really.

      Those that agree with facts know it’s a thing and really would love to see it go, but what can we do? We’re not politicians, we’re not rich, we’re not powerful.

      We’re separating our plastics and paper and what not, we try to avoid the car, we use public transportation, bicycles… But what are we supposed to do? We cannot fix this, er cannot stop this.

      Just saying “boomers don’t care” is a bullshit statement. In not a boomer, but I know enough of them. Just saying that it’s all the boomers fault is easy enough but it won’t solve anything.

      Start at least blaming politicians and the rich. They’re the ones that got us here, they’re the ones that keep is here

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        I dunno, most boomers I know, including my parents, do not really care much and think it’s just the next generation’s problem and, just like themselves, every generation has their own problems 🤷‍♀️

        I also blame the rich and politicians first and foremost but there is in fact a little blame to go around to all of us too, including me, but also totally boomers too lol

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        Listen, I don’t disagree with you regarding the class divide, but this is my own experience with plenty members of the older generation, including my own parents.

        I’m not saying they all do, nor do I really think it’s a starting point for dealing with the issue either, but that’s what this meme is about. Again, it’s just my own experience and I’m sorry that it seems to upset you.

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          Maybe it’s a bit strong to say they don’t care. Most I know, they do care but it’s low on the priority list, after “the economy” which affects their savings held up in stocks…

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      My mother switched from “it’s not real” to “it’s real, but we aren’t causing it”

      There is no winning here

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      Or, speaking as someone right on the cusp of boomers / gen x, we acknowledged and cared about it, but there wasn’t enough support for it to allow us to do anything beyond rambling and sounding like a bunch of fanatical (^('s.

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        No unfortunately it’s the future consequences. We’ve already passed the +2c of global warming two and a half decades earlier than expected. Which was the threshold for significant but not world ending effects if we had hit it in 2050. At our current pace we’re looking at the near worst case scenario by 2050, which only a small percentage of boomers might live to see. Most won’t see most of the effects of climate change.

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    The irony is that boomers have been alive long enough to remember how different the climate used to be. They’ll remark how it never snows as much as it used to, or how there are more storms, fires, droughts, etc. Yet they refuse to see that climate change is what is causing this change.

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      It’s not that climate change is causing this change of climate. The change of climate is climate change. That’s why it’s ridiculous for someone to say “Oh, the climate’s changing. But it isn’t climate change!”

      Oh no, it must be those pesky democrats and their secret government weather control /s. Trying to convince people to believe in climate change so they can… checks notes… promote self-sufficiency through renewable energy…

      What’s causing it is primarily greenhouse gasses along with several other compounding factors (deforestation, concrete and asphalt coverage, melting ice caps, etc.).

      So yes, human-induced. No one would run a gas-powered lawnmower indoors, but somehow they believe that billions of people driving outside every day is totally fine?

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      I’m in my 30s and remember the weather being very different in my childhood… winter never had 30 degree differences between yesterday and today like we had this past week. Was nearly 60 degrees one day and then we got 6+ inches of snow the next day.

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        i’m mid 40s in central europe and can clearly remember that summers were around 32°C max in my childhood, last 2 years we had 40°C. I can remember winter being a lot colder, regulary freezing the Danube river for extended periods, allowing skating - these times it’s a bad idea stepping on the thin ice that never freezes over completely. And i can clearly remember huge amounts of insects, making a mess of the windshield when driving - nowadays the windshield nearly stays clean. The boomers are lying to themselves, because the truth is too hard to acknowledge.

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          I’m assuming the hotter temperatures are also increased by how much concrete there is compared to back then. Also the floods. They build warehouses on fields and then be surprised all the water goes into rivers. I’m in my late 20s and remember ice skating on local river in the city and there being more snow that lasted longer. Now if it even snows it’s gone in few days.

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            I’m living in Vienna, having grown up in this city. I can assure you that while the city has grown, it actually put a lot of effort into primarily increasing population density instead of growing into the countryside (well, they have expanded too, but not by much in comparison to the population growth). The extra heat does not come from more concrete here - Vienna is one of the greenest large cities in Europe, and with lots of forest surrounding the west and the river going through it is a pretty privileged situation overall. Also, this year for example i can count the amount of days below 0°C on one hand - i haven’t seen ice in any meaningful amount. All together i’d say our temperature window has shifted by around 10°C upwards since the late 80.

            Edit: Just looked it up, it really seems like the average didn’t move as much as the temperature maxima/minima.

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              Also, this year for example i can count the amount of days below 0°C on one hand

              I can count the number of days this year on one hand…

              For real though, I knew what you meant. I just couldn’t resist the opportunity (after all, there’s only five days a year when this joke might apply)

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      Yet they refuse to see that climate change is what is causing this change.

      If they accept climate change, it means they have to acknowledge that their actions helped cause this and it means they need to change their behavior. People aren’t good at either but most Boomers especially suck at self-reflection.

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        Which isn’t true either. They are not fully responsible. I can’t blame them for believing that personal co2 foot print nonsense. The oil industry poured billions into that campaign

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          they voted for the policies that enabled it all and didn’t challenge their governments. If you’re a white boomer that isn’t in poverty, you ain’t on my innocent card

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            They fell for the lies they wanted to hear because they propped up their ability to have it all. Fuck 'em.

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            True that. But right now people are voting for the right while the right tell them straight to the face they will kill them.

            Apparently that is appealing for some people. Idk.

            And the old political parties are also shifting to the right following the capitalism.

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        “Generation Me” is chock full of narcissists. And the one thing narcissists are never going to do is consider that they are the root of the very problems at hand.

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      The boomers in my life are starting to come around with it but they believe and combination of

      1. it’s not man made
      2. it won’t be as bad as people say/we can’t know the future
      3. green tech like electric vehicles are too expensive

      The first two are frustrating but don’t really matter if we can engineer our way out of three. My dad got solar panels because they would pay for themselves eventually. I’m not saying we can just green tech our way out of the climate crisis but if green tech gets good enough it will go a LONG way

      These are just anecdotes from interacting with my family. Your mileage may vary

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    Stop it about boomers.

    Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

    In fact, the last election was heavily influenced by millenials shifting to the right.

    But of course, not every milenial

    Dividing based on age is part of the political agenda.

    I don’t think you want to solve the issue. At first blush it seems to me you have an alt account arguing the opposite.

    That’s the only reason I can think for someone starting a post with “boomers”.

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      Stop it about boomers. Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

      Thank you - beat me to saying this. (And Gen Z too)

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        Honestly, I see more ignorant Gen Xers (including my own parents and relatives) who are more ignorant and gullible than Boomers more often than not. They are also the age demographic that voted the most for Trump.

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      You worded that very well. I don’t like people calling out generations like this but struggle on making a well formed reply.

      Also it’s odd that they lack the understanding that one day their generation will be the old one and they will be subject to blame. Unless people just stop doing it!

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        A story as old as time.

        For many adults, children are at the same time “smarter than their parents” and also “more disrespectful than their parents at their age”.

        And children think that the old people “left them without opportunities”

        They’ve been saying that before biblical times.

        The funny thing is that I’ve observed that children who blame adults become the adults who blame children.

        The well adjusted children become well adjusted adults who don’t blame others.

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        Do you mean the people profiting are white boomers? Many are generation X. Some are millennials.

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          I bet you wouldn’t make such a sweeping statement about a racial minority. The percentage of boomers (like me) who vote for progressive policies is pretty large, though not a majority. It’s not that dissimilar from GenX and millennials.

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            Was I sweeping? I was saying the small number of people profiting were of several classes

            Actually I was asking if that’s what they were trying to say

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            I bet you wouldn’t make such a sweeping statement about a racial minority

            I bet you wouldn’t believe the amount of sweeping statements made to my face about racial minorities by white boomers

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              I bet I would, but I also bet it’s not all boomers making those statements (older than early 70s are Silents, younger than mid 50s are GenX). I also don’t believe that it’s okay to engage in sweeping stereotypes just because other people engage in sweeping stereotypes.

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    Climate change is real and we’re causing it

    “I definitely did not do this and won’t change anything I do.”

    Blue M&Ms cause cancer

    “How could the M&M people do this to me?”

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    Common scenario to collect data about gullible people and scam them later - or just to get them to like a certain page and then sell the page with the likes.

    Local supermarket chain is giving away free cars, just like this post and add a comment. Oh, and by the way the page was created two days ago and has 15 likes - must be legit!

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    If you or someone you know are experiencing climate change please consult a radical extremist. Symptoms of climate change may include:

    Its hot when its not suppose to be

    Its cold when its not supposed to be

    Its very hot then very cold then very hot…unexpectedly

    Rising sea levels

    Glacial melt

    Oil companies suppressing the media

    Large scale science denial

    Radical extremism is a known treatment for societal decay. Results may very.

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    To be fair, the dye they used to use for Red M&Ms was banned for being a suspected carcinogen in the 70s.

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      Yeah but in the 70s basically everything was carcinogenic, even the air.

      If you were stressed about that, you’d just smoke a cigarette.

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      97% was reported by earlier small surveys, but I think the most rigorous and widely reported survey of scientists was Harris Interactive in 2007.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change#2005–2009

      That was followed up in 2010 by a survey of specifically climate scientists, whom hit 97-98%.

      The ‘concensus’ has been constantly challenged in conservative media and circles so there have been many such surveys / meta-analyses continuing over the years and it’s been hitting 100% for the last several years. If any idiot ever parrots “science doesn’t work on concensus” my usually response is something like, “no it doesn’t, but when an entire field of scientists have determined a theory to have vast evidence-based backing its considered settled. The only thing that would change that is significant contradictory data being presented, yet instead every year we’re measuring huge volumes of data that confirm the concensus.”

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      The rest believe it too, but their papers are deliberately written in such a way that journalists can misinterpret them.

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    That’s what happens when you grow up with the National Enquirer in every checkout line and there’s no internet to fact check anything. The GOP has been grooming the whole generation since Nixon.