Human Rights Watch was not able to gather verifiable information through interviews with survivors of or witnesses to rape during the assault on October 7, and there is only one public account reportedly from such a survivor.
Read further. Other investigators found at least one survivor of sexual assault and at least three witnesses to gang r*pe.
I am not saying you or goat are right. Sexual assault did happen, but it is uncertain if it was en masse due to the lack of testimony and whether anyone among the dead are victims of SA.
concluded that there were “reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred during the October 7 attacks in multiple locations across Gaza periphery, including rape and gang rape, in at least three locations.”
There wasn’t necessarily 3 separate occasions of gang rpe, there were at least 3 locations where either rpe or gang r*pe occured. Later on they state that it was unclear that any of this sexual violence was planned at all,
Available evidence did not permit Human Rights Watch to draw conclusions regarding the specific identity of those who committed crimes involving sexual and gender-based, or whether these crimes were planned by the Palestinian armed groups who ordered the attacks.
My honest assessment here is that it’s unclear how much Hamas is culpable for this. I’d encourage you to check out Norm Finkelstein’s analysis of this report and others from his interview with Robinson Erhardt. I can fully understand if you want to err on the side of caution and say that this is condemnable in the absence of some evidence that it was only the actions of individual Hamas fighters disobeying orders.
I’m always fascinated by tankies and anyone doubting women who said they were raped. What evidence will convince you if witness and victim testimony, video footage of women being stripped, autopsies, confessions from captured terrorists, and the UN stating that there was rape, will not convince you?
This is what I found on the topic of r*pe on Oct. 7. https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/17/questions-and-answers-hamas-led-armed-groups-october-7-2023-assault-israel#_Toc171593941%3A~%3Atext=Gender-Based+Violence-%2CWhat+were+the+main+Human+Rights+Watch+findings+regarding+sexual+and+gender-based+violence+on+October+7%3F%2C-The+extent+to
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Read further. Other investigators found at least one survivor of sexual assault and at least three witnesses to gang r*pe.
I am not saying you or goat are right. Sexual assault did happen, but it is uncertain if it was en masse due to the lack of testimony and whether anyone among the dead are victims of SA.
Those who interviewed the witnesses:
There wasn’t necessarily 3 separate occasions of gang rpe, there were at least 3 locations where either rpe or gang r*pe occured. Later on they state that it was unclear that any of this sexual violence was planned at all,
My honest assessment here is that it’s unclear how much Hamas is culpable for this. I’d encourage you to check out Norm Finkelstein’s analysis of this report and others from his interview with Robinson Erhardt. I can fully understand if you want to err on the side of caution and say that this is condemnable in the absence of some evidence that it was only the actions of individual Hamas fighters disobeying orders.
I’m always fascinated by tankies and anyone doubting women who said they were raped. What evidence will convince you if witness and victim testimony, video footage of women being stripped, autopsies, confessions from captured terrorists, and the UN stating that there was rape, will not convince you?