Just came up with my father again.
He blames me that mother forgot her phone’s and Google password because I recommended against it being a word.
I mentioned encryption, “not necessary unless you’re doing something illegal”.
When mentioning lack of privacy with targeted advertisements, he said that he actually really likes them, because he bought a couple of things he wanted for years.

I don’t really have good arguments.

  • dingus@lemmy.world
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    Am I missing something or are you conflating two different issues? Why isn’t anyone saying anything about this?

    Password security and internet privacy are totally independent issues. I obviously don’t want random people to be able to log into my bank account and steal my money.

    But I’m sorry, I’m one of those people who don’t care about “privacy”, even after reading all of your comments here. Everyone is keen on using “slippery slope” sentiments like “suddenly the government is going to go after you for 3D printing” or “suddenly the government is going to throw you in jail for chronically going little bit over the speed limit” or even that the government is going to hunt you down for using Lemmy.

    It’s like well…yes…those are technically within the realm of possibility. I’ll give you that. But is it likely to ever happen? No, not really. Some of us are ok with that probability. It’s ok if you aren’t. But it’s ok for those of us that are.

    Most people on Lemmy read as doomsday preppers to me. I’d wager many here are preppers. You have to understand how outside the norm you guys all are and how outside the likelihood of what you’re saying can be. Check out some prepper communities if you’re interested in what I see in you all.

    I hope this doesn’t offend anyone. I also just hope that you can see why it’s ok to let non-preppers continue to be non-preppers. Idk.

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      So you’re okay with anyone seeing anything you send over the internet, in the mail, or on the phone? Why would this not be a problem, even if you are totally innocent of any current crime? Would you be fine if someone were spying through the open windows of your home? You’ve got nothing to hide, and they aren’t hurting you, right?

      If there is a reason for officials to come looking for information about a crime, they have other ways to do so. Why make it easier for them and violate the privacy of everyone else who is doing nothing wrong?

      This borders on “well, they aren’t after the group I’m in, and probably won’t be, so whatever”. If you don’t think that’s a danger, you have not been paying attention.

      Let’s turn the question around - why is securing any sort of communication between two parties such a bad thing? What happened to innocent until proven guilty of doing anything? Encryption isn’t a crime, at least until it becomes an inconvenience for those in power who want to mind other people’s business. It’s no different than pulling the window curtains closed.

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      Am I missing something or are you conflating two different issues? Why isn’t anyone saying anything about this.

      The issue was choosing a password, which not being a single word, my mom ended up forgetting. That part is security. The privacy part comes with my father arguing that setting a more complicated password is stupid because they have nothing to hide.
      Plus he mentioned usage of Google Photos backup system, which in this case wouldn’t really be secured. But he says the photos also aren’t private, because it’s just photos made in public and old photos of me as a kid (which I hoped he lost with his old phone).