I hate it so much that these dystopian devices are all advertised as a positive thing and, worst of all, that there are millions of dumbasses going “well that sounds like a great idea!”
“they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Yes I know the issues with the founding father narrative. However, I think that this quote is very true and applies to the situation we are currently facing.
anyone who objects to mass surveillance obviously hates puppies
You got me, but actually I mostly want the christian families and their children to be sad
I wonder how hard it would be to rework this advertisements to be what it’s actually used for:
- Immigrants spotted! Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
- Automatic License Plate Recognition with Flock (now a partner), found a “criminal”. Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
- etc.
Wait is flock seriously now partnered with ring?
Has been since October
Gross, I had no clue. Now I might need to find replacements.
Ring was already “partnered” pretty closely with law enforcement, this is more of a consolidation than a new development. I’ve been saying this since they first floated the concept of CLOUD BASED SURVEILLANCE DOORBELLS but the whole idea is fucked. If you really feel a need for monitoring like that, set it up yourself. A corporation handling it is worse than nothing
Not might.
Have to.
The next step they’ll take is hooking into the amber alert system to find missing kids. Then, it will be finding “criminals,” which applies to basically everyone thanks to NPSM-7.
The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
They were hinting at its use for that in this ad by showing a young child right away.
The fun part is that they’re already at the “criminals” stage and we have been for a while. The marketing team is just backing into it and manufacturing consent.
Yup, this is effective propaganda used to make people feel good about the devices.
The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
has it? the kind of critical thought that easily dispels this fallacy isn’t being applied right now on a global scale as evidenced by the fact that people are blaming russia for the epstein illuminati ring.
Not sure that I’m following/understanding. I’m saying that skeptics of the “if I’ve got nothing to hide” argument were correct. You do have something to hide if the people in power suddenly change the definition of what’s legal.
the “i have nothing to hide” argument is easily dispelled by several avenues of critical thought; including the one your comment points out.
this sort of critical thought is not being applied to the russia/epstein narrative that’s taking hold on american politics right now.
Ok but you can just rewrite this meme with your deauth packets on the left side and Wifi 6 on the right side.
So still effective right now. I wardrobe as a hobby when I get bored and there’s very few APs ready for this. We’ve got a few years.
This is horrifying.
Should we buy ring nodes and feed them poisoned video feed?
Benn Jordan was recently doing work on poisoned audio files, making it so models are damaged by ingesting his music. I believe the same should be possible with video streams.
They probably won’t be training on the poisoned nodes, but they sure as hell will be wasting power on them. That makes it more expensive to do this stuff, no?
For me personally, I wouldn’t consider it worth the risk. You still have to make an Amazon account, hand over your personal information, let their cameras onto your network (of course, you can VLAN them) and… how many people are gonna do this to make it effective?
It just seems playing right into their hands, I’d rather outright boycott anything Amazon (I understand easier for some than others) than waste my time, money and effort into protecting my personal info against a user hostile company.
I agree, that’s the most practical approach and I wouldn’t blame anyone for choosing it. For me personally, though, I’m a little pissed off that these companies get to have such inhostile environment for their shenanigans. It’s like a playground for them, where they get to happily A|B test the various surveillance state softwares that will eventually get sold to oppressive regimes (just like Flock). I’m at a point where I’m willing to spend a not-so-insignificant portion of my time, energy, and know-how on inventing a little bit more friction for them. It shouldn’t be so easy for them to fuck us. They didn’t even offer dinner, first.
SPRAYPAINT EVERY SINGLE ONE. CALL THEIR OWNERS OUT. DESTROY. THAT. SHIT.
(Writing this with a device in my hand with a front and several back cameras, super sensitive microphone, and internet acces)
Should’ve used GrapheneOS.
I think a strong laser straight to the CMOS chip is better since it can’t just be cleaned off.
They’re not only rolling out the total surveillance society- they are making people pay for it and subscribe to monthly fees for the privilege.
How else are we going to know who is at the door? I mean, I guess we could open it but that’s boring
Or you could do what I do and just don’t answer the door.
“since launch, more than a dog a day has been reunited with their family”
Yeah, because cats know how to evade the fascist state. All Cats Are Beautiful …
400ish found out of 10 million is…incredibly pathetic, lol.
It’s apparently enough justification to get people to consent to having their doorbell cams used for surveillance by 3rd parties 🫠
Yall do it with your smartphones and your airtags anyway.
I consented to that when i accepted the EULAs on all the stuff i signed up for online over the years. I’m not consenting to this though! 😉
Fucking dumbasses losing their dogs every day.
I mean there are some ugly damn cats, for real.
Shut up. No. There. Is. Not!
I would massage all of his scalp wrinkles.
goblin mode
That is a chupacabra. Not a cat.
Ah i am feel ashamed. I wanted to put besides hairless cats. But i knew there are like a dozen cute ones in total. So i didnt thinking i was being mean.
Im gonna downvote my own comment.
Don’t take the precious! Smeagol wants it!
Ugly but cute. If hairless, 🤮.
In this case the other end of the cat is cuter.
Introducing search party for ‘illegals’
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upbeat music plays 🥰
Ad Company: How do we sell mass surveillance… By helping sad kids and cute puppies. Keep it short so people do have time to think to hard about it.
Yup. I wouldn’t put it past the average person to see this and be happy. It hits the feel goods and for people who aren’t already attuned to digital privacy concerns they likely aren’t going to extrapolate the end game.
Privacy has always been a slippery slope issue which makes it very difficult to explain to people without sounding like a conspiracy theorist. Only when it’s too late and people are negatively impacted does it become obvious, and by then it’s too late.
Another area that isn’t getting enough attention is Amazon Sidewalk. They’re actively building out a network so these devices can share information (albeit limited) with each other even if you deny them internet access. Again, the tech is cool, but the possibilities are concerning.
As a kid I used to love tech and I remember reading CES coverage with anticipation and wonder. When Google Glass was demo’d I thought it was the coolest thing. Now there’s no way I’d voluntarily put AR glasses that weren’t FOSS on my face.
This is not real right… Right… It’s a joke right? I hate the world because I really can’t tell.
It’s been real for a long time now, this is how ring works. You have to manually turn this stuff off and no one does.
There are some informative videos on this spy network.
my newest neighbors are having ring cameras installed in my apartment building and that combined with the knowledge that ring shares this data to the highest bidder (which is often the gov’t), i feel like my civil rights are being violated every time i have to walk past the ring cameras every time i walk out my front door. lol
I don’t know if you live in a state where you just get shot for nocking but calling the bell and explaining your concerns to them usually works at least for me.
it’s more peculiar than that: the ring cameras were installed over a month ago, but neither tenants have moved in yet and they both clearly have money since they’ve both had their apartment renovated by professionals instead of the landlord’s maintenance guys.
i’m guessing that these apartments are just their “city home” and i doubt that they will take kindly to a poor telling them how to live.
It’s real. I watched it with my mouth hanging open. I know the capability has been there for a while but openly advertising it as a good truly shocked me.
My wife and I yelled at the same time when that ad played. Insanely dystopian.
This won’t be abused at all /s
This isn’t new. These companies have been doing this for a long long time. They need to be stopped.
First it was subpoenas, then it was complying with law enforcement requests. I think the new development is that just anyone can do it.
No kidding, and the feature is on by default. It’ll be lost human family members next.
They already partnered with flock last year, the same flock that shares with “law” enforcement
I was trying to point out that this feature may be even worse than that because it doesn’t even require a formal law enforcement request. If this becomes what it looks like, even private contractors will be able to access it without raising any alarms, further lowering the bar.
Won’t work, there are no doorbells in the death camps
There’s the unexpected dark humor FTW.
What part of this is humour? America has several death camps at the moment. People are actively disappearing from the system and can no longer be looked up. No one in the entire regime is able to locate them.
What do you personally think happened to them?
It’s a combination of two things, the subversion of expectation, which is a common device in jokes, and the criticism of authority, which is another, similarly common, one.
In my comment, I’m pointing out that these cameras are a risk for even broader abuses than just subpoenas, and compliance with law enforcement requests under the guise of finding lost family members.
The responder humorously twists my words to claim that it’s not a problem because the lost family members have already been swept up in an indiscriminate drag net, such that the cameras can not find them.
The joke is on the DHS, and not it’s victims.
Yes, organized crime loses their marks they are shaking down, luckily if they are up to date on their ring subscription…
I hadn’t even considered this aspect. I guess we can kiss goodbye the witness protection program.
Wow, I mean, with all the disgusting implications to this, you gotta hand it to their marketing team.
Yeah finding the one application that people would support. Everyone loves dogs, well everyone except for our political and business leaders. ie the president and epstein and their like, they hate dogs, go figure.
