The Fediverse is huge and overwhelming to a newcomer, with many different types and each with servers to pick from. Which ones would you suggest checking out or avoiding?

  • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    As far as I understand, lemmy instances are sort of a community with communities inside. It seems that each isntance has their own like minded userbase. .world has basich mix of everyone due to popularity, .ml holds strong beliefs politically, blahaj.zone is more progressive in gender identity, piefed.social is more mainstream decentralized instance. And of course there are more I didn’t mention.

    I am on dbzer0 because I am into selfhosting and sailing the seas. It fits me well. Tied to one instance doesn’t stop me from engaging on other instances except the ones I blacklisted.

    Check the instances and their descriptions and find something that fits you.

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      In addition to being a themed community of communities, instances also have different federation/defederation policy. dbzer0 is defederated from Lemmygrad.ml, for example, while being federated with Hexbear.net. There’s also the differences on how upvoting and downvoting is treated among instances, with some disabling downvotes and some disabling voting altogether.

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        db0 wants to ban feddit communities because they believe that mods not letting death threats pass there in moderation passes as zionism.

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          This is the kind of statement that is so far at the extremes of both vague and unhinged that it’s not so much that I don’t believe you as that I would need to see some kind of evidence of multiple specific and unambiguous incidents. TLDR; you can’t just say that kinda thing with 0 receipts.

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              I honestly can’t tell if this is just my ADHD or if this is just an overly dense philosophical argument that in true internet fashion has just gotten completely out of hand. There’s no damn good reason for anyone who will never physically set foot in any of these places to have opinions on this topic of that complexity or intensity.

              Like my opinion on the topic is mostly that my country should definitely stop giving Israel weapons and probably send the Palestinians some food water and medical supplies. Other than that I’m not personally going to impose my opinions overtop those of people who actually live there.

              The answer to imperialism isn’t trying to align your views with whichever side you’ve decided is the most right then loudly philosophizing about it from thousands of miles away. It’s the kind of thing you can’t undo, you can only stop doing it. The answer to imperialism is to shut the fuck up and stop meddling. Now the internet as a whole isn’t great at that (especially not the shutting up part), and I don’t think I’ll ever find a space that’s free of it. So I’m just gonna go with the place that seems as agnostic on the most issues as possible and try not to overthink shit that’s, in the end, none of my damn business.

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                Honestly I have my own political beliefs about the attrocities committed by Israel, but that’s not the issue here. I think it harms the fediverse in cases like this when the choice of their members gets restricted by universally banning these communities on your instance. This vote is also framed in a certain way and anything but democratic in that sense. Theres not a pro and con argument list or a neutral statement. The db0 admin just doesn’t like the way feddit mods moderate so he framed it in a way that legitimizes him banning these communities. But honestly this is not worth my god damn time. I only know if I was on db0 I’d move to another instance

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        You can do what I do and just block the genAI art comms.

        No harm, no foul, I just am not interested in the content.

        While I can’t say for certain, I would strongly suspect that a lot of the people in those comms are self hosting their LLMs/Image generators, if that makes you feel any better.

        But uh, there are a variety of nuanced stances on LLMs and such, amongst the other m@teys I’ve talked with.

        Its… not like we’re all super duper no holds barred put AI in everything advocates.

        A lot of us are… quite a lot closer to ‘Butlerian Jihad NOW’, lol.

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          At the risk of starting an argument (sorry)… I see any use of GenAI as support and endorsement of the technology, and I see the technology as a systemic attack on creative work by real people. It’s stealing the results of hard work of people to produce derivative work with the intent of replacing those same people. Thus, while self-hosting does remove some concerns related to big corporations, I think it still empowers them by supporting the tech they deal in.

          I do block dedicated GenAI communities, but it’s more widespread than that, showing up in unrelated comms, being used to generate community icons and banners.

          And of course an instance isn’t homogenous with regard to its users, and I don’t condemn people for using db0, but IIRC the host of db0 is supportive of GenAI, which is what I primarily referred to, and what steers the direction the instance is taking.

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            I see any use of GenAI as support and endorsement of the technology, and I see the technology as a systemic attack on creative work by real people.

            I mean personally, I do as well.

            But… it’s Pandora’s box.

            You can’t uninvent it, basically.

            We could theoretically limit or heavily regulate its further development, but again realistically, with how much money and power tech corporations have, how much influence they have over lawmakers…

            … unless you’re gonna go find an ‘AI’ datacenter and put salt or sulfuric acid or something into the cooling loops, no you probably can’t really do much to effectively impede it.

            I do block dedicated GenAI communities, but it’s more widespread than that, showing up in unrelated comms, being used to generate community icons and banners.

            I’ve also seen a bit of this, and I also find it annoying… though 99% of the time that I see something like this, its some kind of like cryptobro, when lambo, diamond hands, type person.

            I don’t know that it like, stems or comes from GenAI comms on db0.

            but IIRC the host of db0 is supportive of GenAI, which is what I primarily referred to, and what steers the direction the instance is taking.

            Well I don’t know precisely what db0’s (the admin) exact stance on GenAI is, but I do know that db0 the instance and community has a highly involved and active goverance model for instance rules and associations. There are fairly often major discussions and votes on a good deal of issues… as opposed to many other instances that basically just come down to the whims of the admin + a clique of powermods.

            db0 themself has done more than any other instance admin I am aware of to make it so that if the community itself opposes their own personal opinion, they’ll adopt the community’s opinion and simply be an executor/facilitator of it.