I hope they don’t feel pressured to change just because there’s more users. They’ve reached their success by being deliberate and streamlined, it’s what makes Mint great. Long live boring and reliable.
The more Ubuntu enshittifies, the more work Mint has to do to work against it. That’s why my personal recommendation is against Mint. Ubuntu just isn’t a good foundation to build on, IMO.
For awhile there, PPAs were the reason to stick with Ubuntu as a base, because the .deb package format was (and still is) very popular, and PPAs allowed fairly easy distribution of software without dealing with the standard repository. Flatpak has kind of solved that problem by now, and so like you say defuckulating Ubuntu is just getting to be a bigger and bigger chore.
Too bad LMDE is based on Sid. Some stuff can break on occasion.
I few months ago I helped an older lady at a repair café to replace her Win10 with LMDE (because that’s what she wanted). Installed just fine but didn’t boot after reboot. Installed LMDE 2 or 3 additional times, to make sure I didn’t overlook something. Same result.
I have never had a problem with LMDE. My mother has been using it for about a year now. I used to have to come solve Windows problems for her a couple times a year but she had never asked me for any help with LMDE.
It’s unlikely that an already properly installed bootloader just breaks. The base is Sid, Debian Unstable.
Just because breakage doesn’t happen all the time, there is still a higher than average chance. Sid is Debian’s beta test branch, not a rolling release distribution. It just wasn’t the right choice for the lady at the repair cafe.
I was corrected that LMDE is not based on Sid. I redact that part of my comments. The experience I had installing LMDE on a lady’s laptop at a repair cafe was as described, though.
Agree. There are dozens if not hundreds of Linux distros, I’d they want different, try another. Just keep it simple, secure, and windows can fuck off. I have bazzite on a gaming laptop for games with the kiddo, Zorin on my main laptop and desktop.
And before I get shit for having so many devices, I save devices the clients were going to trash because it was “old” and not reliable enough for professional business environments. Which I do agree a bit. Most of my devices are 8th or 10th gen Intel, I replaced the nvme with my own and canibilize memory, I’m not rolling in several thousand dollar systems. And I give away SO many to neighbors, full systems, laptops, monitors, etc, ready to go. Wasting tech is against my religion.
There’s many more, those are the Linux devices (plus a steam deck). I don’t like taking about all the shit I’ve accumulated over the years, makes me feel sad and wasteful.
hey accumulating stuff that you still find use for is better than throwing them away. And you said you give away stuff to other people for their use… which probably saves even more devices from a landfill.
I have bazzite on a gaming laptop for games with the kiddo, Zorin on my main laptop and desktop.
Btw, if you want Bazzite but without the gaming stuff for work computers, there are also Aurora and Bluefin. The latter is more conservative, based on CentOS and using Gnome. They are all Universal Blue projects, so you’re not dealing with vastly different systems.
I don’t get Universal Blue’s desire to give slightly different flavors and entirely new name. With the non-LTS option, what is the difference between Bazzite Gnome and Bluefin? Preinstalled code editors instead of Steam and Lutris?
I hope they don’t feel pressured to change just because there’s more users. They’ve reached their success by being deliberate and streamlined, it’s what makes Mint great. Long live boring and reliable.
The more Ubuntu enshittifies, the more work Mint has to do to work against it. That’s why my personal recommendation is against Mint. Ubuntu just isn’t a good foundation to build on, IMO.
For awhile there, PPAs were the reason to stick with Ubuntu as a base, because the .deb package format was (and still is) very popular, and PPAs allowed fairly easy distribution of software without dealing with the standard repository. Flatpak has kind of solved that problem by now, and so like you say defuckulating Ubuntu is just getting to be a bigger and bigger chore.
Which is why LMDE exists.
Too bad LMDE is based on Sid. Some stuff can break on occasion.I few months ago I helped an older lady at a repair café to replace her Win10 with LMDE (because that’s what she wanted). Installed just fine but didn’t boot after reboot. Installed LMDE 2 or 3 additional times, to make sure I didn’t overlook something. Same result.
Then installed Fedora and it just worked.
LMDE is not based on Sid, it’s based on Debian Stable. LMDE 7 is currently based on Debian 13 Trixie. You sure you had the right ISO?
Oh wow, you’re right. Did that change at some point and I just didn’t pay attention? My bad!
I had the correct ISO and the experience with the lady’s notebook was as described. Maybe the notebook needed newer kernel code?
I have never had a problem with LMDE. My mother has been using it for about a year now. I used to have to come solve Windows problems for her a couple times a year but she had never asked me for any help with LMDE.
It’s unlikely that an already properly installed bootloader just breaks.
The base is Sid, Debian Unstable.Just because breakage doesn’t happen all the time, there is still a higher than average chance. Sid is Debian’s beta test branch, not a rolling release distribution.It just wasn’t the right choice for the lady at the repair cafe.I was corrected that LMDE is not based on Sid. I redact that part of my comments. The experience I had installing LMDE on a lady’s laptop at a repair cafe was as described, though.
Agree. There are dozens if not hundreds of Linux distros, I’d they want different, try another. Just keep it simple, secure, and windows can fuck off. I have bazzite on a gaming laptop for games with the kiddo, Zorin on my main laptop and desktop.
And before I get shit for having so many devices, I save devices the clients were going to trash because it was “old” and not reliable enough for professional business environments. Which I do agree a bit. Most of my devices are 8th or 10th gen Intel, I replaced the nvme with my own and canibilize memory, I’m not rolling in several thousand dollar systems. And I give away SO many to neighbors, full systems, laptops, monitors, etc, ready to go. Wasting tech is against my religion.
You have seriously misread Lemmy as a whole if you think having three devices is going to make people angry. What an odd thing to get defensive about.
There’s many more, those are the Linux devices (plus a steam deck). I don’t like taking about all the shit I’ve accumulated over the years, makes me feel sad and wasteful.
hey accumulating stuff that you still find use for is better than throwing them away. And you said you give away stuff to other people for their use… which probably saves even more devices from a landfill.
I mean, if you are recycling devices that others would have thrown away, I’d say you are not wasteful at all.
I have well over a dozen Linux machines running in my home. More than half of them would be considered garbage by most people. Clearly, I disagree.
Some of mine too lmao.
Btw, if you want Bazzite but without the gaming stuff for work computers, there are also Aurora and Bluefin. The latter is more conservative, based on CentOS and using Gnome. They are all Universal Blue projects, so you’re not dealing with vastly different systems.
Only Bluefin LTS is based on CentOS. Standard Bluefin is based on Fedora.
I don’t get Universal Blue’s desire to give slightly different flavors and entirely new name. With the non-LTS option, what is the difference between Bazzite Gnome and Bluefin? Preinstalled code editors instead of Steam and Lutris?
I like Zorin, I was going to try cachy next. Bazzite I use specifically for games.