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  • lemmyseikai@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I both thing people have a right to dignity, which by extension means they should have a day of how to live their lives. I also think that the general population shouldn’t vote. Against Democracy is a really good read if you haven’t read it.

    For the record, I literally will drive people to the polls (since our current system creates better outcomes if more people vote) but I do really wish that most of them wouldn’t XD.

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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      2 hours ago

      Okay so i haven’t read against democracy but it seems to take the socrates position. Instead of limiting votes to only the highly educated (which i take as an issue because this disadvantages the poor significantly due to higher education costing lots of money) why not just build a society in which everyone is educated enough to meet the standard for an informed voting population?

      • weeeeum@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        Firstly, I don’t agree with anyone in this chain, but man… there are just some people who damn near physically incapable of learning.

        There’s also the simple fact that a huge portion of the population just don’t care about politics or government. If “didn’t vote” was an option for eligible voters, it would have won every election in US history.

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          The great thing about representative democracy is that idiots don’t actually vote for anything. They only vote for whom to represent them.

          I’ll admit, I’m somewhat of an ignorant idiot myself. I haven’t read nor understood the entirety of all laws. That’s why I choose someone else to represent me.

          I think it’s only fair that mentally handicapped people are also allowed to choose someone to speak their case.

          The problem in US isn’t the idiots. It’s the two party system. In countries with multiple parties, truly idiotic votes would be scattered randomly all over different parties, or they would be placed on the party that represents idiots the best.

          That doesn’t work in US, because you actually only have one political party and then the opposition. It’s really easy for an opposition to trick idiots into voting against everything.

        • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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          18 minutes ago

          I see the fact that most people don’t care about politics, government, or learning as a symptom of our system of social organization rather than something inherent to humanity

    • fizzle@quokk.au
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      2 hours ago

      Yeah this is a good one.

      I agree that the majority of the populace chooses how to cast their vote based on limited information, overwhelming biases, and erroneous misconceptions.

      However, I don’t know that there’s a better more equitable alternative? I’ll have to read Against Democracy, for sure.

    • IronBird@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      mandatory voting is better than any sort of voter controls, the catch is you also have to combine it with a properly funded/structured public education system designed to grow well rounded individuals capable of critical thought (instead of mindless factory drones, like the US’s).