Elon Musk is not visionary. He is more of a “let me pretend to create this dumb convoluted thing that would not work, but seems like it might” type of asshole.
He invested heavily in EVs before everyone else. He got into working satellite internet before everyone else. He built a successful private rocket company before everyone else. How was he not a visionary?
He may have swindled and stole and exploited and kicked out orignal founders, but that’s the asshole part to a tee.
If we want to give Musk some benefit of doubt the only visionary thing he did was SpaceX. Pretty much every other venture he’s invested in has been either someone else’s vision or something very stupid (like what the Boring Company is doing). I don’t think he deserves to be called a visionary when his contribution isn’t the vision but a fat wallet.
Sorry, “musk bad” is just a more important vibe than creating the Model S and a charging network at a time when electric cars were Nissan Leafs that could go five miles and then overhead.
None of the people downvoting you had these opinions in 2015. Musk is a nazi cunt but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have vision back then. Unfuck your heads.
He threw around his father’s illegal emerald money and got praised when some of it came back.
If you have that much money and invest randomly, you have a good chance of making more. You also didn’t hear about all the people who tried the same and failed, so there is some amount of selection/survivorship bias.
Elon Musk has proven himself to be an idiot who only makes things worse when he overrules the engineers. The engineers are the smart ones, Elon just takes the credit.
He got into working satellite internet before everyone else
Satellite internet has existed before Starlink. What’s novel about starlink is that the satellites are much closer to earth, which allows for a low ping, but comes at the cost of needing to replace the satellites every few years, as they’ll deorbit by themselves, and needing a whole lot more of them. It only offers an advantage over cheaper alternatives (terrestrial internet or satellite internet in geostationary orbit) when you’re somewhere without proper infrastructure, and those areas tend to not be wealthy. So, the question is, is there enough demand to pay for replacing the entire constellation of satellites every few years?
Every one of those already had an engineering base that was flourishing, he just dumped capital into them and then PR’ed the shit out of his own idiocy to make it seem like each company’s idea was his own.
I’m going to say one good thing about Musk below. It’s probably the only good thing I will ever say about him going forward.
The American car industry is a cesspool led by some of the biggest villains who exist. The existing car manufacturers were not heavily investing in EV. They liked the status quo. Also, the barrier to entry for any new car company is extremely high, as well. For example, a lot of states have laws passed requiring car manufacturers to sell from traditional dealerships, which is specifically to stop new small car companies from succeeding.
Because of this massive corruption in America, I fully expected that any EV developments would start internationally. You’d have to be a complete moron who was also flush with money to try to fight them. And then Elon Musk came onto the scene. He was a complete moron who was flush with money.
I don’t know that Musk pushed the EV industry forward, but he certainly pushed the American EV industry forward. If Musk had been smarter, he’d have tried something more reliable with his money, and he wouldn’t have started an impossible fight. I know Tesla has almost bankrupt at least once since he took over. His luck stat must be off the charts.
The 1800s would refute the first claim, Hughes for the second, and wasn’t starship supposed to already have landed on the moon by now? His vision is knowing a sucker when he sees one.
Elon Musk is not visionary. He is more of a “let me pretend to create this dumb convoluted thing that would not work, but seems like it might” type of asshole.
Not a visionary and not the founder. Just an investor.
In point of fact, he bought the title of “founder”. Seriously - look it up.
Well, maybe his assholeness makes up for the other two parts of the criteria.
He invested heavily in EVs before everyone else. He got into working satellite internet before everyone else. He built a successful private rocket company before everyone else. How was he not a visionary?
He may have swindled and stole and exploited and kicked out orignal founders, but that’s the asshole part to a tee.
If we want to give Musk some benefit of doubt the only visionary thing he did was SpaceX. Pretty much every other venture he’s invested in has been either someone else’s vision or something very stupid (like what the Boring Company is doing). I don’t think he deserves to be called a visionary when his contribution isn’t the vision but a fat wallet.
Sorry, “musk bad” is just a more important vibe than creating the Model S and a charging network at a time when electric cars were Nissan Leafs that could go five miles and then overhead.
None of the people downvoting you had these opinions in 2015. Musk is a nazi cunt but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have vision back then. Unfuck your heads.
He wasnt the visionary, the founders of tesla were. He’s just a capitalist douche.
He threw around his father’s illegal emerald money and got praised when some of it came back.
If you have that much money and invest randomly, you have a good chance of making more. You also didn’t hear about all the people who tried the same and failed, so there is some amount of selection/survivorship bias.
Elon Musk has proven himself to be an idiot who only makes things worse when he overrules the engineers. The engineers are the smart ones, Elon just takes the credit.
Satellite internet has existed before Starlink. What’s novel about starlink is that the satellites are much closer to earth, which allows for a low ping, but comes at the cost of needing to replace the satellites every few years, as they’ll deorbit by themselves, and needing a whole lot more of them. It only offers an advantage over cheaper alternatives (terrestrial internet or satellite internet in geostationary orbit) when you’re somewhere without proper infrastructure, and those areas tend to not be wealthy. So, the question is, is there enough demand to pay for replacing the entire constellation of satellites every few years?
Every one of those already had an engineering base that was flourishing, he just dumped capital into them and then PR’ed the shit out of his own idiocy to make it seem like each company’s idea was his own.
I’m going to say one good thing about Musk below. It’s probably the only good thing I will ever say about him going forward.
The American car industry is a cesspool led by some of the biggest villains who exist. The existing car manufacturers were not heavily investing in EV. They liked the status quo. Also, the barrier to entry for any new car company is extremely high, as well. For example, a lot of states have laws passed requiring car manufacturers to sell from traditional dealerships, which is specifically to stop new small car companies from succeeding.
Because of this massive corruption in America, I fully expected that any EV developments would start internationally. You’d have to be a complete moron who was also flush with money to try to fight them. And then Elon Musk came onto the scene. He was a complete moron who was flush with money.
I don’t know that Musk pushed the EV industry forward, but he certainly pushed the American EV industry forward. If Musk had been smarter, he’d have tried something more reliable with his money, and he wouldn’t have started an impossible fight. I know Tesla has almost bankrupt at least once since he took over. His luck stat must be off the charts.
The 1800s would refute the first claim, Hughes for the second, and wasn’t starship supposed to already have landed on the moon by now? His vision is knowing a sucker when he sees one.