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Wrong god posted:
While some foods are associated with a higher risk of type 2 diabetes, no single ingredients in and of themselves cause diabetes - obesity does. That’s why every fad diet can make a semi-credible claim to have “cured” people’s diabetes. If you lose enough weight, it might go into remission.
And to be clear, none of what I just said is meant to imply a moral, individual failure on the part of anyone who is living/struggling with obesity and diabetes. It’s a complex thing, and like all complex things we can go ahead and blame corporations for it. 👍
thx for the diabeetus
fun fact, that is a eugenicist health scare campaign started by settlers to demonize indigenous peoples whose traditional diets are rich in corn.
famine and genocide are known causes of chronic illness. surviving colonialism is inherently disabling and heightened diabetes rates are a side-effect of that. it makes no scientific sense to me to completely ignore the social determinants of health and blame the diets of entire ethnic groups for their chronic illness rates.
“It’s the Coca-Cola, stupid”.
thx for the diabeetus
you know you don’t have to turn it into corn syrup right? that crap isn’t used widely anywhere but in the US
Corn syrup is better than our other main use for it: Ethanol
Problem is that we have such extreme subsidies that vast swaths of farmers are now entirely reliant on corn subsidies. We make far more corn than we have any use for because of it
No politician wants to be the one to take away the insane corn subsidies because a whole lot of farmers will be upset, and the American public is generally unaware of how wasteful the subsidies are
Seriously, grilled on the cob dipped in butter is the most bestest way to consume this sweet grass!
Ain’t nobody made you fat from that but you. If you were living like the natives were back then, you might be keeping fitter with it
It feels kinda strange to call them Mexican farmers. Like referring to the people who lived where the US is 9000 years ago “American Farmers”.
Like I guess that’s technically correct in a way. But it still feels weird.
Mexico didn’t exist back then. Europeans hadn’t conquered and genocided and created states in the Americas.
This was native (indigenous) americans.
Mexicans are native
indigeneity and nationality are two different concepts that have nothing to do with each other.
this can range from indigenous Oaxacans who are US citizens to Mexican citizens who are settlers who murder indigenous people in Mexico to steal their land.
What did the natives call the region in their language?
Well before Mexico, it was the Aztecs and they called their land Aztlán, Mexico is probably some bastardized name from Nahuatl
there was never a Aztec people that was the name someone made up. The Mexica people are the ones you are talking about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztecs
Someone has made up every name for every thing
You put “Mexica” in English… someone made that up, too. chaos everywhere what will we do
I don’t know where exactly maize was cultivated, but Mexico comes from city Mexico-Tenochtitlan.
They found millenia old traces of maize in the valley of the Rio Balsa in Xihuatoxtla and also in the valley of Tehuacán.
Something about Coxcatlán phase. Couldn’t find a name of a people who would have been responsible for the domestication.
It’s easiest to say it happened in Mesoamerica.
I don’t think it was the Mexican farmers that gave us diabeetus. I’d blame it on the sugar cartels in the US.
that’s a bingo! rest of the world doesn’t use corn syrup
High-fructose maize isn’t an Indegenous invention: that’s a White invention.
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and turkey, they domesticated the turkey we eat…
and china, they domesticated chinese food
Is that how they bred orange chickens?
Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It’s history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison.
That’s no longer accurate, as there are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in areas with Chinese communities that aren’t just trying to get western locals to visit. The dim sum place I’ve been to didn’t even have much English on their menu and it really helped to have some colleagues present who knew Chinese (both the language and the food).
Easily one of the best meals I’ve ever had, and I’m not usually a fan of the western chinese style.
dim sum is called dim sum though, you wouldn’t expect to get dim sum except at brunch/lunch time and if someone says they are going to get Chinese food it’d be a surprise to get dim sum. Even traditional Chinese restaurants that cater to Chinese people serve Americanized Chinese food. In the Seattle Chinatown there’s restaurants that have Chinese only menus that don’t have any of the same stuff as the English menu. I’ve been to them with Chinese speakers and it’s a totally different experience then going there with just my wife.
my original point is that “Chinese food” to most of the western world is the stuff that American Chinese immigrants invented. Real Chinese food isn’t called Chinese food because China is massive and they have so many food cultures that those cultures are what that style of food is called
It even started in the late 60’s early 70’s, originally referred to at “Chinese restaurant syndrome.” Rooted in anti Asian racism, supposedly we were slowly being poisoned… by tasty tasty Asian food with added msg.
So… it’s not poison? Propaganda is a bitch
It’s psychosomatic. MSG is also in tomatoes, mushrooms, and tons of savory salted snacks such as Doritos. None of those tend to trigger the symptoms people claim to have after eating Chinese food.
What isn’t psychosomatic when the target is the average fucking moron?
… I mean, besides all the things that turn out to be real… but morons will believe anything up to and including their mumbling jibberish is a connection to God with glossolalia…
“Ranch” flavor comes basically 100% from salt and MSG. There is a microscopic amount of herbs that make next to no difference. Ask anyone who thinks MSG is bad for you if they have cut out Ranch dressing for some hilarity. (May not apply to non-Americans).
I have a feeling there’s a huge overlap between the people who complain about Chinese food and the people who raved about the Mississippi pot roast viral recipe (which has two packets of MSG-loaded seasonings in it).
What do people claim about MSG?
Personal anecdote from cooking for years for a variety of people of varying intelligence, background, and countries:
Most people claim it gives them headaches and nausea.
They “know” this because they feel it every time they eat (american) “Chinese food”
Not a single one has ever had either symptom after eating my cooking that has a little sprinkled in.
Now, I have tried to prove a point to some by informing them (many hours after the food, and asking about how they feel) that they in fact ingested MSG without issue and had no symptoms, usually to rounds of spontaneous nausea and headaches that had apparently gone unnoticed for hours until just then.
It could be that ingesting a shit-load of greasy, oily, carbs and over-eating that caused their nausea and headaches when they gorged themselves on “Chinese” food, but no, they know it’s the MSG.
Another personal anecdote from a non-American: My parents never buy MSG. When I did, they freaked out a little then I have to explain it’s not bad other than another source of sodium we need to watch. I need to point out that all of our staple liquid seasonings are filled with added MSG: soy sauce, vinegar, patis.
Despite being Asian, this happened because my shitass country often rely on shitass recommendations from the US health department. Another example is the ban on magic sugar, which is also propaganda by US sugar manufacurers.
So, in short, they’re heavily allergic to their own thought processing.
Wasn’t it a problem in cheap potato chips too?
Chinese food* as we** know
*only applicable to western chinese food
**the American
I get it. Kinda like with scotch whisky
In Turkey corn is called “Egypt” and India is called “land of” either “Turkeys” or “Hinduists” depending on how you chose to interpret it.
I select the first one.
This shit is the cause of a fair bit of anemia and malnutrition in sub Saharan Africa.
Fuck corn.
that’s like blaming potatoes for deaths caused by green potatoes.
corn doesn’t cause anemia or malnutrition, it’s partly because it’s not processed properly through nixtamalization and partly because of poverty caused by colonialism
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@smorty you’ve been a chatbot before, can you answer this question? what’s teosinte?
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