It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.
It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.
Relative to Reddit, probably the number of users. More users means more posts, more comments, more expertise on various areas, and more niche communities that become viable.
Somewhere down the list:
Extremely determined negativity. There are a lot of…I don’t know how to describe it. People who actively try to take the absolute, most utterly-pessimistic read on anything possible, to the point of having to make crazy assumptions to keep some kind of negative perspective on the thing. I don’t know if it’s people suffering from depression — which I understand can produce that effect — or doomerism or what, but it’s exasperating. I haven’t run into that sort of phenomenon, certainly not to anything like that degree, on other social media environments that I’ve used.
The low-effort “capitalism bad” venting comments. I’m not really into far-left views, but that’s not what irks me. I’ve seen people on here who you can at least talk to about left-wing positions. Like, some random user who is interested in, I don’t know, adopting universal basic income and wants to talk about different proposals. But about 99% of the comments I see that contain the word “capitalism” don’t amount to that. They’re just venting. They aren’t constructive. They don’t reference any material. They aren’t proposing any improvement or ideas or anything. All they want to do is to vent. I mean, it’s like someone wanting to complain about their ex or how their sports team lost or something like that. And not only that, but a substantial percentage of those comments are complaining about something that has little to do with capitalism. Instead, it’s virtually anything to do with the political or economic world that they don’t like relative to some sort of idealized paradigm that they hold. You could use that “everything I don’t like is woke” meme about the right, swap “woke” and “capitalism”, and I swear, it’d apply to a lot of the comments. And I get that, yeah, one purpose of talking to people is to vent, and so you’d expect that occasionally when people talk to each other, sometimes they’re gonna vent. That’s human nature. But holy cow, as low-effort venting goes, the “capitalism bad” comments show up as a high proportion here.
Occasionally I do talk about things, write larger comments about communal ownership. Like…okay, I know that on at least a couple of occasions, I’ve talked about the fact you’ve had communal ownership work at small scale, like families, say, or that there have been smaller organizations that have practiced communal ownership of property, and that maybe it’d be interesting to try working up in scale from smaller organizations to try and identify where any issues might crop up. And I have never had anyone actually respond with discussion when I do write something like that. No engagement. Like, it’s not as if people have some raging unmet desire to talk about any of that. They just want to complain.
I don’t even see people who are writing “capitalism bad” comments engage in discussion with each other. Like, this isn’t Marx and a bunch of activists in a London cafe throwing around ideas with each other. It’s just one-off complaints, leaf comments in the thread.
I totally agree especially with the “everything I don’t like is capitalism” low quality comments. I’m pretty leftist myself and I love quality discussion about how to make the world a better, juster and fairer place, but lemmy is chock full of “capitalism bad” Doomerism. Tons of “the world is shit” and “you’re an evil neoliberal” for trying to make things better instead of just curling in ball of despair and gloom.
Black pill leftism, I guess
I agree with the politics part. I AM leftist but sometimes need an escape from politics because everything is just so bad all the time.
But it’s not even overwhelming politics (though I can understand people being tired of politics, as a separate concern). I’m pretty sure that @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net or @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com or a few other users I’ve run into could probably carry on a constructive discussion about left-wing politics. I occasionally see, on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works, good-faith, well-meaning left-wing users who are actually trying to go talk about left-wing issues on lemmygrad.ml or lemmy.ml and are off trying to have a serious conversation. Usually auth-left-versus-non-auth-left, but that’s just what gets submitted to MeanwhileOnGrad, and I imagine that there is probably other conversation elsewhere. It’s just that the “capitalism bad” comments that I’m talking about aren’t from those users and don’t fall into that category. They’re just the largest source of low-effort comment stuff that I see.
Meanwhileongrad is some of the lowest quality slop on here, nowhere near ‘good faith’ or ‘well meaning’
In my experience tankies are very closed minded and ironically against collective action; given how much effort they put to avoid building coalition and elections.
They also like to assume that they are driving change when its not clear where they are outside of the internet.
thank you for providing an example of what I’m talking about
Not everyone is privileged enough to be as apathetic to the election results.
I both agree with you and also kind of unironically believe that everything I dont like is capitalism, haha
It’s not depression. It’s identity politics they believe in and that necessary leads to absurd beliefs.