If you’re already with Linux, this is not for you. This is for people who’re indecisive or been contemplating for long about whether to make that jump.
For me, it’s a matter of a few things. I’m on a Windows 10 version that guarantees me until 2032 of support. That means I would effectively skip Windows 11, like I already mostly have and potentially skip Windows 12 if that turns out to be a shitty choice. I’d be coming in right in time for whatever Microslop shits out for Win13.
Should Windows 13 suck, I think that’s a consideration. Another consideration is when Valve keeps dropping support for certain Windows versions of Steam. Because I know for a fact they will drop Windows 10 support entirely one day and then Windows 11. I believe it is really stupid that they do this.
By the time my Windows 10 version expires, I’d be getting older, which means I’ll probably care less and less about computer-related things. Going to Linux wouldn’t be a problem since I’d be doing barebones things like browsing and checking e-mail.
And I’d also hope that by 2032, Linux would have better development like easier access to proprietary drivers and software among other things.
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I switched my laptop to Arch a bit over a year ago but my desktop is still on Windows 11.
The main thing that’s holding me back is the lack of raw photo editing software that matches my workflow. I’ve tried RawTherapee, Darktable, RapidRAW and a couple of others. So far, everything was either cumbersome to use, was missing important features or had suboptimal performance. With dozens if not hundreds of candidates, even one more minute of editing time per photo can quickly add up. Many of my gigs are event photography and my clients often want at least the roughly edited previews within 24-48 hours.
If any of you knows a tool that accurately replicates the UX, feature set and performance of (ideally) Adobe Camera Raw or (not so ideally) Lightroom, you’d make me the happiest photography nerd on the planet. Bonus points if it correctly imports existing development settings in case I need to re-edit or re-export older photos.
PSA: if you recommend I use GIMP, like so many before you did, I will block you. GIMP is not a raw editor and it can’t even open most raw formats without help from one of the tools I mentioned above.
Nothing. I have happily used Linux in the past when Windows went to shit after 7. But these days, I rely on AutoHotkey for accessibility reasons, so someone please port it to Linux kthx
So, most of my computing these days is done using Linux, however, my primary computer is a MacBook. The reason I haven’t sold that MacBook in favour of a fully kitted ThinkPad running Linux is that I have yet to adequately replicate my radio broadcasting setup that works pretty much flawlessly in macOS.
In particular, MIDI control.
I have an app on my iPad mini called Knob Lab that gives me 12 virtual MIDI controls that I’ve mapped to perform various functions in Mixxx. I am damned if I can get the same setup to work on Linux. I’ve even found a similar (but not as good) app for an old Samsung tablet I have, just in case the barrier was iPadOS, but nope, can’t do it from Android either.
It’s kind of annoying, because everything else works just fine.
I get that there are different Distros and that having options is great, but it’s a double edged sword. It also means that things get more complicated and some get more support than others.
If I commit to Linux then my whole house will switch to that Distro because I don’t have time to figure and support >4 PCs with similar but different OSs.
Autocad - for work
Photoshop - for work
Getting more software companies to support.
Make the terminal easier to use. I don’t use it often but when I do I waste an average of 15min just trying to find a guide or wiki. A help file or built in guide would be nice
Everyone that uses Linux, expects you to be a Linux expert
Steam is great but a native GOG app would be nice. Instead of Herolauncher
Anti cheat support from games
Hardware support. Just finding drivers for peripherals is sometimes more trouble than it’s worth
Generally make it more inviting to new users
More support for WINE and Proton
It needs to actually work.
No display issues with Nvidia. Working HDR out of the box. The OS and games most pick up the correct resolution both on desktop and running in proton. I need to be able to turn my monitor off and on without having to remove and insert the HDMI.
Same with audio. I need it to correctly detect my HDMI pass through and not need a script to run on boot to pull and grep a changing device id on every fucking update.
Finally I need Bluetooth to not be a total piece of shit and correctly support a controller without latency.
Now, where is the nerd to come screech at me, tell me my issues were fixed a decade ago and that Linux just works perfectly on random hardware and that Linux is so easy an idiot could do it? All the while I spend 40 hours a week on the cli and ide.
Even steam deck has a bunch of issues that nerds will hand wave away.
Sounds like most of your problem is NVIDIA. I don’t have any of that on AMD. But if that’s what you have that’s what you have. I’m not blaming you. Unfortunately NVIDIA (the company) is just not as good about making their stuff work with Linux.
Bluetooth works great for me. At least since I switched from a shitty old Broadcom wireless card to a modern Intel wireless one.
Checks clock. 40m.
So you’re just going to have wave away the other 2/3rd? I get it Nvidia made it a pain in the ass. What excuse for BT, HDMI, and Wi-Fi?
Normal people aren’t going to buy hardware just to use Linux.
Like I said I’m not blaming you. If that’s the reality for you I’m not here to prosthelytize. Maybe you can try again on your next PC if you’re still trying to get away from Windows.
BT
Commented on
HDMI
NVIDIA, along with HDMI audio.
WiFi
Not something you mentioned but honestly not something I’ve had a problem with in 5+ years across a lot of hardware. Except this one old Broadcom card that was pulled from a Mac because I wanted to try Hackintoshing (running macOS on a normal PC).
Your HDMI problems are Nvidia’s fault. WIFI I’ve never had problems unless it’s a shitty WIFI card, BT also works, even with my shitty adapter. No noticable latency on a DualSense controller.
Perfection. No notes.
Having the time to dick around and get a linux distro up to my current speed with windows. Or someone else making a distro that mirrors windows 10 capabilities, and utilities (even mundane things like control panel and it’s branches to other settings) and verbose explanations of functionality in the onboard help docs or subtext of options. Or an onboard llm asshole like clippy that can be conversed with om how to accomplish something the linux way.
I think what the linux community misses or forgets is that windows became popular partly because it held people’s hands so much. If linux users want to see the year of linux come to fruition they need to make the distros walk people through a task instead of pointing at the wall and saying “up”.
Conversely I think the linux world says they want everyone to use it but I wonder if they actually want that: everyone using linux means the computing and advertising world pivots and makes linux equivalents of everything, including all the gate keeping, scummy business, malware/adware/tracking…
Your last paragraph nails it. I’m not trying to get the whole world to switch, but I’d be happy to get the like minded peopleout who haven’t switched.
When it stops being a tool that works for me and starts working for corpos, well, then I will be in the minority again.
This topic used to come up all the time on Reddit subs, but this is the first time I can remember seeing it on Lemmy.
I’m kinda in the same boat as you I think. Currently still using win10 and waiting it out, till either windows becomes decent or I switch to linux. Currently considering linux because I don’t game as much anymore, but kinda too lazy to switch till something breaks.
Better accessibility. It’s actually gotten worse in the 15 years I’ve known about it.
people dont realize that micrisoft treats accessibility as a first class citizen. no one comes close to windows in accessibility.
Not to mention msot of the third-party accessibility software that people actually use is for Windows.
Apple is usually cited as the gold standard. VoiceOver even tells you which side the charging port is on when you rotate an iPhone.
Microslop’s Windows
11Failed projects in a trenchcoat.All my personal PCs and vms are Linux but for work I occasionally need to use a laptop that is on a mangled win 10 ltsc release that’s been gutted of most any dial home shit and returns update choices to the user.
The minute my tools all work on Linux properly that’s getting converted too.
For most people? Their friends will have to do it.
Unfortunately, I am forced to use the much hated Adobe Creative Suite. Also, it would take some serious time and effort to break free from the Apple ecosystem. I did start moving certain services away, i.e. email and backup, so that an eventual move in the future is a bit less painful. It‘s a process.
I’m a whole lot less computer literate than I was when I attempted it in my 20s, I also really only play some games nowadays and binge watch stupid on YouTube… the computer has become less of my life in my 40s so learning a new system sounds like… work.
Look, to be perfectly honest, I’ve had to do far less “computery” bullshit on Linux. After about six months of everything just working fast and flawless, I realised Windows is the OS that requires a pretty high level of computer literacy. Even installing Linux is a simple and quick breeze compared to Windows.
All it took was a final, “Oh, for fuck’s sake! That’s it! I’m fucking done!” moment. I just didn’t want to do it anymore. Never had one since. Using a computer is a nice thing again.
I 100% recommend Linux for grandparents!
I empathize with this even as a highly computer literate person who works in tech. I turn 40 this year, and when I’m off the clock, I need to read books, touch grass, and live my life as if I don’t know how computers work.
I think this is a very valid reason. I used to reinstall Windows every 6 months or so for various reasons, switching to Linux wasn’t any more work. But if you don’t enjoy researching, installing OSs, etc then it’s only ever going to feel like a chore.
I’ve used old computers for phasing out certain social networks - e.g. I’d block Facebook on my main computers, and only access it on my old laptop. That’s been quite effective. You could do that, and just use Linux Mint or Xubuntu on that old laptop. Very real learning necessary, and you do manage to break it somehow, it’s not a big deal.
For me it’s not about whether it is more work or not. It is more along the lines of, tolerating microsoft’s bullshit for any longer. Windows 10 in more ways than one, has teetered me towards the edge of switching. Because I hate stupid mandatory updates, I hate how insultingly stupid it is to use a Windows system these days and every dumb decision Microsoft has made that has turned Windows into what it is and what it will be in the future.
I won’t mind a little work to use my machine, long as it frees me from all of that bullshit.
If the current situation hasn’t gotten you to switch then you’re not gonna switch in 2032. You’ll probably just have some other excuses.
Bazzite seems like it would fit perfectly with you then
I would need games to be supported, as well as engineering programs I need like solidworks, ansys, etc
Most games are, but there’s a few asterisks mostly not because Linux is incapable of running it but because there’s super invasive anti-cheac that doesn’t allow it.
Most games have worked for years now
For me, as someone who’s not into esports-games, I just expect games to work on Linux now, and they nearly always do. The exception has been a couple of old or obscure titles that run fine in a virtual machine. I’m not running any fancy version of Linux, just Mint, and the only thing I do to get them to work, is install them on Steam. Proton is amazing.
If you are into esports-games, though, there’s a risk that they’ll require kernel-level anticheat, and Linux does not do that.
What games aren’t supported that you play?
I need games to be supported
SteamOS and steam consoles will be really helpful for this I think
Edit: typo
every distro can run games now
I assume you mean games? If so, yeah I’d love to get into steamos stuff if that’s an option for my pc but it’d have to be like a real os not just geared for gaming. Do you have any info on that
Edit: but tbh I probably can’t because like I said I need my work programs
Steam is amazing on any Intel version of Linux. 95% of games work. It’s not true that you have to use Bazzite or SteamOS to play games, I ran a bunch of No Man’s Sky on Manjaro Linux.
I have a steam deck, which is in console mode most of the time, but seems fully capable of acting as a desktop. The only issue is the fact that it’s console shaped, but that’s no fault of the os.
Side note: I’d hope that by 2032, proprietary drivers would be a relic of the past.
Steam and Xbox games fully playable and functional. So I want to be signed in and able to play with friends, etc.
there is about 10 games that do not work on Linux amd they are require a kernel level anticheat
*spyware
I’m not a huge gamer myself but so far every single game I have tried has worked on Linux with little to no tweaks.
Well the first is already true and the second is never gonna happen.
