I’m waiting for Cosmic to mature
It has so many great ideas, all it needs is time and polish.
Plasma is great. But it’s missing an important feature. Apps, such as backup or sync, cannot navigate to network shares, to use as a backup target. Dolphin sees the shares ok, but its important to backup. Windows lets apps select network targets. Plasma should too.
Dolphin shows you places that are not in your file system, such as network shares or your phone‘s media directory. Those are fake files, illusions of Satan, temptations designed to stray you from the path of God. Avoid anything that is not opened with
openand not read withreadsystem calls, for doing so is a sin before eyes of God (fopenandfreadare permitted). Mount your network shares usingsudo mount -t cifs.I use Nixos, but my ssh mount and nfs and samba mount can be selected as backup path for kup.
Nice. Kup actually lets me see the Network. But then complains if I select a samba share. There is a popular bug report about this. I prefer sync backup to access documents directly, instead of kups scrambled backup files.
What do you use for backup?
Kup currently also does not satisfy my needs, but I am not sure what else I should use.
I’ve enjoyed KDE since Mandrake 6. The control you get to have as a user is amazing. Thought to be honest, I really change very little. But the Cube! I will die for that Cube.
But I have used probably every DE that runs on Linux one time or another. Each has its own charms and quirks. While my laptop lives comfortably with Fedora 43 Kinonite, the cheap mini desktop I’m using right now currently has COSMIC on it. And to be honest, as much as I like LXDE, dnfdragoria as it’s package manager, someone at Fedora needs to take dnfdragoria out back and launch it into the sun. COMIC is far lighter feeling than I thought would be. I will live with it for a while I think.
Gnome has the cube now. I prefer gnome, so this was a wonderful surprise.
Reminds me of the old compiz days, beautiful stuff
Cinnamon situation currently on arch feels such that it might break at any time, and in fact has recently. :-( I have absolutely loved the simplicity this DE, but the breakages lately are worrisome. I’m considering migrating from cinnamon to plasma, but the added cruft that comes with the Plasma DE does not impress me. There is some tension; I have contributed to KDE projects, and I prefer KDE apps over gnome/GTK.
How well does plasma wayland tolerate unresponsive apps? I need to be able to keep graphical apps in this state for possibly an hour at time, as I run them under a debugger.
I think due to Cinnamon being the DE for Mint, they might be feeling some issues with their transition to Wayland. I know I switched from Fedora Cinnamon to Fedora Budgie for a bit because things got frustrating when they started the switch. I’m using Fedora COMIC right now. It seems pretty decent.
Still waiting for XFCE‘s Wayland support. Until then Plasma it is
I miss being on XFCE, I’ll be so quick to go back when their wayland transition is done
Booooo Wayland
Get over it. We all have to.
I went from Gnome 2 to Mate, and switched to Plasma last year. Can’t see myself moving away anytime soon XD
KDE’s absolutely excellent, but if you need every little kilobyte RAM, go Sway. Sway—It’s Technically Graphical ™
Try danklinux.com for an easy Niri install. Thank me later.
Wait. It is like hyperland but with a control panel so you dont really miss anything like changing control mouse speed screen resolution etc.
This looks interesting. Today i use plasma and kanata to get a good environment that is close to tiling
i have tried kde and i cannot understand how so many people love it and hate gnome
Gnome 3 abruptly removed app icons from the desktop moved taskbar to the top of the screen, and broke Alt-Tab. That’s why prople hate Gnome and love KDE, because KDE did not break these features.
It’s not that I “hate” Gnome, I still love Gnome 2 and Cinnamon by extension, but the workflow of Gnome 3 just sucks balls for me. I can tolerate the workflow of any other DE, but Gnome 3 is just right out.
Me either. I use Plasma because I prefer the whole workflow but I’m fine with GNOME, it’s just a bit shit out of the box, which I think is part of the problem. It feels so much more modern and the settings menu is much better, plus all the GNOME apps feel lightyears ahead of the half-baked KDE stuff. I wish KDE would stop adding obscure features nobody uses and just work on the polish (though I think they’re doing a bit of that now with the new login screen and unified theming).
the first DE I used on Linux was cinnamon and I was like “wow, this is great, everything makes sense to me out of the box”
And then I tried Gnome and was incredibly put off by it, like “why the hell is this over here, this layout is strange to me. Why are all these unconventional features on by default, this is very annoying.”
And then I tried KDE and I was like “wow, this is great and everything makes sense to me out of the box, also there’s all these features and options, I don’t know what they do, but i don’t have to interact with them if I don’t want to.”
I’m now on KDE. Before I have used XFCE, Gnome, Mate and Cinnamon.
People seem excited about Cosmic.
What does it make it so promising?
I just installed the Fedora spin with COSMIC this week. It’s running very nicely on a low powered mini-desktop with 8Gbit of shared memory. It feels light enough and easy enough to use for newcomers to Linux. Plus it has just enough eye candy to satisfy those that want some customization by just point and clicking.
I’m going to be trying it out for a while I think. But my laptop will always be Kinonite.
Been on Awesome WM since '08, but once dappled with KDE. Does it still have resource hungry processes that I have no use for (IIRC, Akonadi or daemons related to it were one of those problematic components)?
It does, but they are removable (and I think there is an option to just install the base KDE package by itself rather than the bundles)
It’s the heaviest.
I tried lots of DE’s when distros started switching to GNOME 3.
Now I just run Xfce on everything.
I have only really used xfce. It’s still fun to install Kali on devices but really I use xfce.
Just a user though, not a pro
KDE is my favorite, but I’m excited to try Cosmic once it’s a little farther along.
I also love Cinnamon, not because it looks great, or has a ton of customizablity, but because it is so stable. It’s been the best #JustWorks DE in my experience.
Those are the only two I use regularly. Xfce is nice once you get it customized, but it’s kind of a pain to get configured. I don’t have much use for sophisticated tiling, so tiling window managers are just curiosities to me. I’ve played with i3, Sway, Hyprland, and a few others over the years.
I wish I had a use case for them, but alas, all my day to day needs are handled just fine with basic Window snapping, tmux, kitty tabs, and occasionally using a second virtual desktop.
Desktop environment, and OS in general is just something you eventually find one you like, and there’s no need to change. It’s GNOME for me, it just works in a way that doesn’t get on my way and that’s all it needs to be
Same, and the OS is Ubuntu for me. I use my computer to get stuff done, not for distrohopping (though that’s also a perfectly valid usecase if you find it fun 👍)
Yeah. I was also at Ubuntu after couple years of distro hopping, until they made a change I didn’t like so I just hopped to Debian and been there past 3 releases
It’s GNOME for me
Sicko
No kink shaming! Bsdm is a valid way of life! (Or so I wa told)
Openbsdm or Freebsdm though?
That gave me a good laugh. Gnome doesnt feel right to me at all man. To each his own.
But yea, sicko fr
And I absolutely hate Gnome. But thank god we have over a dozen DEs to choose from. One of the great things about Linux is user choice.
Exactly. You can install your beloved distro with just what software you want there, because it’s your fucking device
This guy has a preference that differs from mine! Get him! /s
Yeah idk, I tried Pop with GNOME and just wasn’t feeling it. Switched to Mint Cinnamon and it’s a little more intuitive for me. I’m just a general user, gonna game if/when costs come down enough to build a desktop to replace my 2015 laptop. By then, I’m sure another distro will be a better fit for me. There are options for a reason.
mint/cinnamon was definitely the best i found until i checked out kde neon. mint still has a better package ecosystem but in neon everything feels slickly designed.
What’s the difference between plasma and neon
neon is the full kde distribution i guess, you can install standalone as its own os. plasma is just the desktop manager shell, can possibly be installed on top of other distributions. (im probably not using the correct terms.)
Do you have to run GNOME with PopOS? I was thinking of trying PopOS
cannot recommend pop with their new cosmic DE, it’s quite bad. looks nice at first, but the more you dive in, the more it lacks basic stuff and you start noticing soo many little bugs and annoyances. had it on my laptop for a while, eventually just installed gnome. it started crashing frequently and suddenly i could no longer start steam, so i just installed ultramarine since it has been playing nice on my desktop. and it has just worked since.
Pop now uses cosmic
I like gnome on my older gaming desktop. It’s a 2080 ti so when i installed plasma was not super stable on nvidia but I wouldn’t change it, arc menu + dash panel and I’m all set. I prefer kde on the laptop though. All the extra bells and whistles feel more useful on a laptop (no mouse).
That’s funny, because I started using GNOME on my laptop because it seemed to fit the workflow on it better. Eventually I swapped to GNOME on desktop too
DEs from one distro to another can feel different too, idk what it is about Manjaro but it feels so much more responsive than KDE’s own distro. So I think it’s worth trying our different distros even with the same desktop environment
true, like cinnamon is perfect on mint, but for example fedora cinnamon feels very wrong. it’s been a while since i tried it, but it definitely wasn’t as stable, and i had to change a lot of stuff from dconf editor, like for example the location bar in the file manager always defaulted to text mode even if you switched it to link mode
