No the hell I fucking won’t.
No we fucking wont. But i might only play indie games by then
The tech bros like him, Bezos, Huang, and all those other tech fascists are working extra hard to make sure we don’t have the software or hardware to buy in order to play or do anything independently.
They’re not gonna make it! I think its just a matter of how much mess they make before they fail.
no
People will already pay 500€ extra to shave 2ms off their display delay. Absolutely no way they will accept the input delay of streaming games.
Lmao no we won’t.
My backlog is already bigger than I’ll ever get through. I’ll live without new stuff.
At this point, I’m convinced that if you think this stuff, you are not a real gamer and are fundamentally hostile to the gaming community, and/or a complete imbecile.
I’ll go back to playing NES roms before I pay for game streaming
How many times does cloud gaming need to fail before these corporate stooges give up on it
It can, should and hopefully will fail forever, but it only has to succeed once. Telecom companies unwillingness to invest in new infrastructure might actually be our saving grace, because I don’t see cloud gaming ever gaining critical mass without most people having reliable and cheap access to fiber internet.
At this point it doesn’t even have to succeed, just be the only choice as the tech fascists kill the ability to buy hardware and software.
Thats what I’m worried about
Can we please stop listening and quoting company CEOs. Haven’t we all learned how clueless they truly all are ?
Yea please. I keep saying it too. Wake up you fucking sheeple. Many folks who become CEOs are some of the worst of the worst cause that is the only way you get there. A CEO only says things that make them money.
Clueless or not, zelnick is in the position to attempt to make this happen. Sony seems to be on board with them, and I bet microsoft is salivating at the thought as well.
Motherfucker, I don’t buy your games at all.
This is a literal fantasy that could only be believed by someone who hasn’t had dogshit internet access in far too long and doesn’t play games.
Yeah, been hearing that shit since OnLive. 15 years later and cloud gaming is still niche. Throw that prediction together with “we’ll have super AI by 2030”. Neither Nvidia’s Geforce NOW or Xbox Cloud Gaming have open financial reports, being thrown together under other umbrellas. Google didn’t have the foresight to see that cloud gaming wasn’t “the next big thing”, but at least it was a project that surprised no one when they announced it was being killed.
The only reason to think “we’ll all be streaming games” in 3 years is because nobody will be able to buy electronics due to AI shitting the RAM market. The more likely result is more people making do with what they have and less games aiming for 300GB install size and 16GB minimum VRAM
AAA gaming is full of execs who have not grasped how their industry has already begun imploding. The survivors in the all digital potato PC world will be the indie devs and Steam since Steam sells their games. The indie game devs write their games to run on anything. The other survivor will be the free to play studios who have already won every market they’ve entered. If they don’t own a gaming market yet its because they haven’t bothered winning it. Look at active player counts. Franchises like Battlefield and Call of Duty are way down the charts from the free to play shooter games.
Franchises like Battlefield and Call of Duty are way down the charts from the free to play shooter games.
I think a big part of that is they are usually monetized the same (or even more aggressively) as the free to play games, but you also have to pay $60 up front every couple of years to keep playing because they come out with a new one (nuking any community they previously had built, further fracturing their community). It’s like they watch other games make bank on a concept and monetization system and think they can do the same thing, but they only copy the bad parts and then wonder why it doesn’t make them billions in a just a couple years.
The free to play listen to player feedback and incorporate related design or development features in a timely manner. If there’s a bug they fix it. If they want a new feature, they strongly consider it. The AAA gaming industry has been inwardly focused for about 10 years now. Watch The Game Awards and you see its just like the Oscars. Awards going to a lot of very obscure titles for checking some box on the social justice agendas. Some games like CS2 stay at the top by simply not making major changes for the worse when they already have a winning formula for their market that nobody wants to see changes.
Aside from the California-western europe developer culture, I think a lot of it has to do with the people above AAA gaming who make the major decisions are not themselves in the industry but in enterprise services or the business community. Microsoft top people may know how to squeeze profits out of enterprise customers but they’ve been clueless on gaming.
You had me until the social justice comment.
Why can’t gamers appreciate diversity lol
Diversity is good. But don’t tell me you yourself can’t feel the vibe when it’s forced in.
Those making entertainment products aimed at the mass market can either avoid making political and social statements or they can accept being a niche market product. It’s about making enough money that people don’t have to be laid off. The people running these companies for the last 10 years have failed to accomplish that.
The only one that I think stands a chance is the xbox one, and that’s assuming they combine it with gamepass. Because that was the only thing that sounded even somewhat appealing to me about the idea of remote gaming: being able to try a bunch of different games legally without needing to buy them all. Like netflix but for games (and not just mobile games like the actual netflix games).
Having my own devices that can handle playing games, I have zero interest in paying full price for a game I own even less than most games these days (because at least with the files all being stored and run locally, it opens up other possibilities, like hacking it to still run without DRM if its DRM server goes out or modding it). That was deal breaker #1.
Dealbreaker #2 is of course the latency. I use an ETX via VPN for my work and just typing on that thing is annoying because of the latency.
The subscription cost is another big negative, though I guess I wouldn’t call it a dealbreaker. Though I currently have 0 video game related subscriptions (I don’t count netflix, assuming they haven’t given up on their games).
On the pros side, the only things I can think of is that it limits cheating (though separate devices would still work) and it gives you an option to play if you don’t have a device capable of playing it, though you do still need a device, a display and sound system, and a good internet connection.
I mean… I won’t.
They’ll be force-feeding streaming soon enough. I’m fully convinced they’re gonna push streaming hard as soon as the AI bubble bursts, just so they can justify building all those data centers.
Who is “they”? Major game publishers? How will they convince 80 different indie publishers to stop publishing locally run games?
Microsoft was already working on streaming the entire OS. They’ll find a way.
Okay? People have already been abandoning Windows on the gaming front. More hurdles and roadblocks will speed that up. How will they sell these products as useful?
And you still haven’t answered who “they” is. Now it’s Microsoft? Or Nvidia? Why wouldn’t AMD capitalize on the gap?
By all means, be a concerned consumer. But your concerns become incoherent and easy to dismiss when you don’t think critically about them and frame them in a direct way that exposes problems people will be impacted by.
You’re wearing Lemmy goggles, the “abandonment” is a drop in the bucket really.
And “they” is the tech industry as a whole.
Microsoft can’t even justify an online subsciption service for $30/month. They already bacled down that price. And I don’t think we need to talk much about Stadia who tried the “pay $60 to stream a game” model.
No way in high hell this takes off. The economics aren’t there and the competition is too strong. Not to mention I don’t think the internet infrastructure is quite ready for that kind of mass streaming anyway.
Those AI datacenters are pretty much single use. If you want to use them for anything else, you need to strip out everything down to the concrete and power leads, and install a new set of equipment.
Tax write off.
as soon as the AI bubble bursts
We’ve been saying that for a long time now. Still going strong, even though I would personally love to see it burst and we can get back to normal.
The market can stay irrational, yadda yadda. Also, Nvidia and Microsoft know they’re the major pillars of the bubble (M$ being the single largest backer of OpenAI) ones that have the most to lose, so they have to keep the illusion going to keep their stocks from nosediving and, more importantly, to keep lawyers and prosecutors off their backs.
