• Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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      Orchestrated the night of the black knives, murdered her finger lord, overthrows the golden order for her own gain. She is literally the catalyst of elden rings problems.

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        She only fulfilled her mothers promise. Godwyn didn’t make something new of himself, he only followed in his parents footsteps. Marika literally told them “if you do that, you’ll be sacrificed”.

        Literal skill issue.

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        It’s pretty clear there were already issues appearing prior to the night of the black knives, the golden order had already needed to be essentially reformed under fundamentalism as it was clear the bounty of the early days wasn’t forever.

        Rani simply wanted to break free of the chains placed upon her by the Greater Will, unfortunately the way to do that required the sacrifice. I’m not saying it was right, but it’s also not strictly evil.

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          Oh absolutely, hence why goldmask’s ending exists as well as the “standard” ending. But it still exists that she is evil for what she’s done. Murdering everyone related to the order of the fingers is still an evil to have done, even if pragmatic.

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            She only specifically killed Godwyn afaik, specially because she needed to die in body to escape? The rest was assumedly more the intent of the Nox seemingly.

            A bit if a stretch to say she “murdered everyone related to the order of the fingers” lmfao