• HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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    They have the receipts for their incomes and weren’t listed as slaves by the the Egyptian state at the time.

    They weren’t forced they were hired.

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      That’s a distinction without a difference.

      Slaves were bought as well, they have receipts as well, it’s just a way to make it “legal”. Even though the end purpose is the same.

      Just because you’re paid and have a room, doesn’t remove the forced aspect of it, do you think they were free to say no and be able to do something else?

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          Why would you pay slaves?

          Slaves in most of history receive payment - and considering that the payment in this discussion is in bread and beer…?

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          To make it not seem like slavery and give them more motivation.

          Oh hey, yeah you’re totally not slaves, you can buy your freedom in 25 years, but how many make it that far as well.

          Why not pay slaves, the money is all yours and comes right back. So why not in that situation?

          Were they free to say no and do something else? You didn’t answer this question.

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            So you refuse to update your understanding because they HAD TO USE slaves.

            Edit: other wise you don’t see how people could have been employed in the ancient world.

            Such a weak argument there.

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              No, I’m saying they’re trying to make something potentially just as wrong seem okay with a justification, and some people eat it up. They had no other option, that’s by definition slavery still, no matter the “white washing”.

              Were they or were they not forced? Why are you avoiding this question?

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              I believe the difference is being forced, they didn’t have another option, to say no to laboring was to be turned into the slave chaste regardless. Slavery by other means, is still slavery.

              What about being forced into this that makes it slavery that’s so hard for you to comprehend here?

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                  Ancient Egyptians were able to sell themselves and children into slavery in a form of bonded labor.

                  Were they? Got anything to support that? They even use the term slavery for their labor…

                  Edit, oh man… bad look…

                  Several departments in the Ancient Egyptian government were able to draft workers from the general population to work for the state with a corvée labor system. The laborers were conscripted for projects such as military expeditions, mining and quarrying, and construction projects for the state. These slaves were paid a wage, depending on their skill level and social status for their work

                  They even say they pay their slaves.