cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37661765
Notepad now supports AI features like Summarize, Write, and Rewrite on Copilot+ PCs, with no subscription required. If you have a subscription, you can seamlessly switch between local and cloud models based on your needs. If you’re not signed in or don’t have a subscription, you can use the local model to accomplish your tasks. For now, these features support English only, making premium AI more accessible and flexible for everyone.
Source: Windows Insiders blog.
Microsoft HAS to know that people who use notepad want lightweight, not bloat… Right? This HAS to be a joke or malice… And not THAT level of incompetence… Right? Right?
just fucking great. my work laptop opens notepad in 2-3s after my w11 upgrade and now it will propably need 6s or something. fucking bloat. In Private i use Fedora and Mint
Can you get Sublime or Notepad++?
Also Kate is on Windows Store app.
But Windows apps launch time could be slower than on linux generally, not necessarily on apps fault. Last time I’m on Windows 10, 5 years ago, GIMP launches in about half a second on linux but took a few seconds on Windows 10.
Macro-Shite giving no option but to have AI. They know dumbed down people are easier to harvest. Its the equivalent of getting people to pay for bitcoin mining and having the proceeds sent directly to you.
Welcome to Costco, I love you
Looks like I gotta go boot up the Packard Bell & get Notepad.exe from my Windows 3.1 install…
no. just no. Notepad exists to edit .txt files, not to fucking give me AI shit.
I wouldn’t know. I use neovim btw. No ai features for this guy
A market for pre-AI tech is going to become a thing.
More tech that does not need the internet at all would be great.
This means it’s also sending your text across the Internet and feeding the stupid fucking models with it.
You know, just what you want from a fucking notepad app.
Oh cool!
Said no one
Is Microsoft not aware what Notepad is actually used for?
I assume this is supposed to get close to use it as a replacement for the discontinued wordpad.
Not writing or coding. No one uses it for anything except when Microsoft forces someone to use it as a default text editor.
Hard disagree, it’s fantastic for dumping log info/code snippets into and stripping formatting off strings.
I use notepad just about every day to dump some kind of information temporarily as to not cause a massive formatting fuck up in word or excel or whatever.
Wouldn’t any text editor with a delinter be superior
Assuming you mean linter, why?
Not every company allows uncontrolled software. Sometimes you have to like with the hammer you were given.
meanwhile the text editor on linux mint is just a text editor, opens in seconds, and lets you edit text.
No one even needs or wants these features. No one uses notepad for anything other than writing down quick notes while on the phone. Why would I need an AI to rewrite that. Actually if I did need an AI to rewrite that, I just copy it out of notepad and into one of the 100 bazillion AI apps that now are.
Microsoft are wasting developer time adding features that not only does no one currently want, but no one could possibly ever need.
No one uses notepad for anything other than writing down quick notes while on the phone.
Actually, it’s a really powerful code editor. It’s used by many devs and sysadmins to quickly edit code and text based configs when it’s not on their machine. It’s also useful when you boot up a fresh vm just for a quick test, downloading another text editor there doubles the work you need to do.
Happy that I switched to Linux
Ah yes because who would want useful free features? Not you!
“Useful free features” like the entire OS and all the tools associated with it?
Like AI built directly into a text editor.
I’m beginning to doubt the accuracy of your username.
Why?
If I wanted AI I could go to some shit website and use it. Just like I don’t want a “useful free” toilet in my car, I don’t want brain-damaging spyware in my notepad.
- But now you don’t have to go to some shit website, you can use it directly where you want it.
- It’s not spyware.
People love free and useful features. Cramming AI into notepad is not useful in the slightest. This is just one more unnecessary AI interaction platform in an os already chock full of them.
So AI isn’t useful in the slightest? ChatGPT? Claude?
You know you don’t have to use AI in it, right?
So AI isn’t useful in the slightest?
How is putting AI in a basic text editor useful? Or is this a situation where you are just defending the concept of the usefulness of shoving bots in every single piece of software possible?
AI has some useful things it can do, but many more useless things, like just being shoved into something to try to mine even more of your data under the guide of ‘usefulness’.
You know you don’t have to use AI in it, right?
No, I just have to see the prompt every time I use the software just so lazy mouth breathers don’t have to expend the mental energy to go to another app to ask their mental pacifier to do all the hard work for them.
How is putting AI in a basic text editor useful?
Because writing/editing text is the most basic use of LLMs. Pretty self explanatory.
This doesn’t mine your data. Where are you guys all getting that from? The screenshot even explicitly shows it’s on-device.
This doesn’t mine your data.
[citation needed]
Where are you guys all getting that from?
Microsoft mines your data while in Windows, why do you think this will be different.
The screenshot even explicitly shows it’s on-device.
And your device data mines you. Are you really this naive?
You made the claim that it does mine your data, so the onus is on you to provide a source :)
Let me ask you this: do you seriously believe that Microsoft send everything you type back to their servers? Like do you honestly believe that?
That’s what wordpad was for. Many just want a simple text editor without any cloud features. You might be using a a temp scratch pad and when the cloud keeps storing your temp passwords and keys it isn’t very secure.
Windows should have wordpad readded with the AI features as well.Where does this say that it is temp storing you passwords and keys in the cloud?
What’s funny is that this likely irritated one of Microsofts own devs enough that they said ‘fuck all of this’ and invented the new cli app called Edit.
It’s under 200kb and runs as a standalone binary if you want. Also supports mouse input.
Did I mention it’s cross platform?
Love you :)
With the tagline:
A simple editor for simple needs.
Just like original Notepad lol
Well, yes, but actually no. It’s more like MS-DOS’s
EDIT.COMsince it runs in a command line / “DOS” window.In fact, since
EDIT.COMwent through a couple of distinct variants back in the day, you could say that this is the third variant of it.The other two being 1) the BASIC-deactivated side of
QBASIC.EXEwhich was an editor and programming language in one, and then 2) a stand-alone, from the ground up, version (with no BASIC to disable) which came along with Win9x / MS-DOS 7.I keep a copy of the latter in my DOSBox config. It’s only 70kB.
I didn’t mean the style chosen for the editor. I only meant the tagline.
And edit,com was the shit and will always be my top 5 favorite text editors. Yes, more than vim.
Edit: changed the . to a , so it won’t be a url lol
Markdown varies a little from instance to instance, but you ought to be able to get away with a backslash before a problematic character (like that dot) or else backticks around something to get monospace text.
edit\.com → edit.com `EDIT.COM` →
EDIT.COMTry not to twist your brain on how I managed to get the left hand sides of those arrows.
This is cool, but it’s not a replacement for notepad.
I mean it has all the features notepad had.
- You can type into it
It’s a terminal style editor.
But you can still put text in it right. So it does the same thing.
Why do we give a flying fluffy who is it about anything else.
Who cares? It does the same thing, maybe except not having different font support and printing.
The people that would use it.
use notepad++ as drop-in replacement.
+1 NPP is the goat
It always struck me as a code editor lite rather than a text editor. If I just want to jot something down, metapad is Notepad without all the Windows bullshit they keep trying to shoehorn.
See, having used IDEs to write software and scripts for the past 20 years, I just can’t see N++ as anything more than a syntax aware notepad.
I use both notepad and ++. I think it fits both worlds of code and text editor. When I am using it I am usually needing to to replace words and other tweaks that are really easy and flexible with ++.
This is also a good choice
One of the best features of notepad was that it starts quickly. That feature is now gone. :(
Tbf, some larger file sizes fucked notepad in the ass HARD. Notepad++ does everything right by me.
Yeah why is that? Decade after decade this never really improved. Trying to open a big file in notepad just always brought it to its knees. Why doesn’t this shit bother anyone at Microsoft enough to write three lines of code to fix that?
Why does everyone assume that programmers can just go and fix stuff they don’t like without getting shot down in performance reviews for lack of focus or for overstepping their authority.
We have a prioritized list of work items coming in from the PO and that’s what we work on. There’s generally no room for creativity. Supporting larger files in Notepad in particular would increase maintenance costs due to requiring much more complex memory management, and it would label you as not being a team player for increasing complexity for everyone. It wouldn’t pass code review.
Sounds awful
