I mean, how do you think spelling correction works? Local on-device “reading” of text is a pretty simple feature that’s used for a bunch of stuff (detecting URLs, email addresses…)
Sure, as you do with any software. A computer is always looking at your data and input. That’s how it works. Unless you audit it yourself, you have to take someone else’s word it isn’t doing something it isn’t supposed to.
I am absolutely not an Apple Stan. I hate Apple. I’m on Linux for a reason, and my phone is running Android (which I also hate, but whatever). You’re reasoning was just bad.
Lol. I don’t. However, you’re acting like just displaying something is an indication of them sending the data off. You do know the text message itself is not just displayed on the screen, right? It takes in some bytes of data and processes it, and them uses that to select characters to print to the screen. It has to process the messages no matter what. This little effect isn’t anything more dangerous than the characters being rendered to the screen. Both of them are just processing the data in a message to choose what to display.
While Apple’s code isn’t open-source, I believe they’ve subjected their code to third-party audit in the past for confirmation that the data isn’t being sent off-device.
Yes, iOS displays your messages. In order to do that it has to read your messages. That’s just how computers work. Same for Windows, iOS, Android, Linux, and even Temple OS.
Doesn’t look like it’s reading it over the network or sending up any data. It seems like it’s just doing it locally, in the process of loading the message.
Ironically, this is the comment in this thread that’s not paranoid enough, because to my knowledge both Google and Samsung use their own closed-source message and phone apps, along with other standard apps. (Idk about other vendors, but the same is pretty likely for major brands.)
Google integrates its own services in both the phone and messaging apps: namely spam reporting and blocking. I’m guessing that other major brands also have services to that end.
Google’s ‘Messages’ also has a button to make a video call, and I dunno even what app and protocol would be used for that, as I never used video calls and don’t have any Google apps for that functionality.
so… is ios reading all your messages now or what
I mean, how do you think spelling correction works? Local on-device “reading” of text is a pretty simple feature that’s used for a bunch of stuff (detecting URLs, email addresses…)
you’d have to take it at their word all of this stays inside the device.
None of what’s been mentioned above requires server-side processing.
Sure, as you do with any software. A computer is always looking at your data and input. That’s how it works. Unless you audit it yourself, you have to take someone else’s word it isn’t doing something it isn’t supposed to.
haha touché, computers always invade your privacy anyway!
apple stans always with the very best reasoning.
I am absolutely not an Apple Stan. I hate Apple. I’m on Linux for a reason, and my phone is running Android (which I also hate, but whatever). You’re reasoning was just bad.
for starters, foss code is audited collectively, not individually.
please don’t believe what apple marketing says at face value.
Lol. I don’t. However, you’re acting like just displaying something is an indication of them sending the data off. You do know the text message itself is not just displayed on the screen, right? It takes in some bytes of data and processes it, and them uses that to select characters to print to the screen. It has to process the messages no matter what. This little effect isn’t anything more dangerous than the characters being rendered to the screen. Both of them are just processing the data in a message to choose what to display.
no i dont, and i dont quite get what you mean and why you are saying that. people get very overprotective of apple.
i’m simply telling you not to believe their marketing at face value. data is money.
While Apple’s code isn’t open-source, I believe they’ve subjected their code to third-party audit in the past for confirmation that the data isn’t being sent off-device.
So kind of, but not entirely.
Yes, iOS displays your messages. In order to do that it has to read your messages. That’s just how computers work. Same for Windows, iOS, Android, Linux, and even Temple OS.
Doesn’t look like it’s reading it over the network or sending up any data. It seems like it’s just doing it locally, in the process of loading the message.
a lot of things “seem” that way on android devices too, tbh.
On Android devices, the apps are auditable as part of the AOSP. If they were exfiltrating data, a security researcher would already have flagged it.
Ironically, this is the comment in this thread that’s not paranoid enough, because to my knowledge both Google and Samsung use their own closed-source message and phone apps, along with other standard apps. (Idk about other vendors, but the same is pretty likely for major brands.)
I just looked, and you’re absolutely right. I had no idea that the Messages app wasn’t part of the AOSP. Very interesting (and not in a good way)
Google integrates its own services in both the phone and messaging apps: namely spam reporting and blocking. I’m guessing that other major brands also have services to that end.
Google’s ‘Messages’ also has a button to make a video call, and I dunno even what app and protocol would be used for that, as I never used video calls and don’t have any Google apps for that functionality.
Looks like it delegates to Meet, for me.
Yeah, honestly, spam reporting is good. Call screen is amazing. I would be loath to give it up.