(i know this is an exchange between some of the worst people of the internet)

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
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      We have made the same mistake over and over again when dealing with conservatives, which is the assumption that they give a micron of a shit about definitions and facts.

      They are not living in a fact-based world, and we resent them for that because they are benefitting from the science, facts and reason that has build the world they cherish.

      But we can make far more effective arguments if we meet them on an emotional level in these debates. I’ve seen more progress made in debates by progressives asking them what they would do if their own son or daughter was gay or trans than all the graphs and statistics in the world.

      Or at the very least, call them heartless, weird, child-hating, freedom-hating, etc.

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        I don’t disagree, just pointing out - engaging them on an emotional level (in a different way) is exactly what happened in OP.

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      And a lot of transmen have also, even after being on hormone treatment for a while, thus looking just like cismen at a glance. Put them in women’s toilets, hmm, no?? What’s the problem, I thought only genetics mattered?? Like the very important genes that dictate that only women can wear dresses???

      Hmm, if only there was the possibility of no strict binaries actually existing considering biological sex and social expressions of gender varying wildly even between cultures, but alas!

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      I’m interested to read about this, please link to some more information.

      Edit: found some, it’s not hard to search online for it.