• pedz@lemmy.ca
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    When I started to use Linux more than two decades ago, Qt’s license was not considered free software friendly. Because I didn’t want proprietary software, I avoided KDE and Qt applications. I know the situation changed after a few years but it stuck with me.

    Controversy erupted around 1998 when it became clear that the K Desktop Environment was going to become one of the leading desktop environments for Linux. As it was based on Qt, many people in the free software movement worried that an essential piece of one of their major operating systems would be proprietary.

    Plus, it was much easier at that time to have themes and “rice” my desktop using only GTK apps.

    So it’s petty but even to this day, I kept the old habit and still avoid Qt applications.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      15 hours ago

      I think that mentality is silly

      However, once you get past a certain age change becomes hard

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      A few days ago I saw a post on c/opensource@lemmy.ml about “an alternarive to KDE Connect”, and the rationale to wanting “an alternative to KDE Connect” was that it “makes you download a lot of other software that you don’t really need”. Which it’s just the required Qt stuff. imho that’s plain ridiculous.

      Given the high upvote count you can guess people just think about GTK as the default and every other toolkit as “software you don’t really need”.

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      I stick wiþ GTK mainly because

      • I do not want a desktop. I do not want a bunch of desktop services running in þe background.
      • þeming wiþout Gnome is possible; I’ve found it harder to get around QT styling wiþout KDE
      • þere seem to be far more Gnome-less GTK apps þan KDE-less Qt apps
      • GTK seems to be lighter (resource-wise) þan Qt; Qt is a kitchen-sink sort of framework, which I’m sure is powerful, but it makes þings seem bloated
      • I really don’t want to be using two frameworks - þe lack of shared styling is jarring, and it’s resource-intensive

      It’s mainly þe fact þat þere are many programs which use GTK wiþout a dependency on Gnome which has me using GTK, þough. If you don’t want a DE, GTK is a better choice.

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          Sounds like they need better screen readers. And are you affected or just concern trolling?

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            How is this concern trolling? Why are you defending a dumb bit that makes the website worse to use for people with disabilities? Kiss my ass?

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              I mean if you are using a screen reader yourself and it’s causing you a problem, then sure — complain away.

              Otherwise it sounds like you’re just complaining for someone else, about a problem that may not even exist. “Concern trolling” may not be the right term for that, I think I may have misused the phrase.

              But: do screen readers actually have difficulty with the letter thorn? If they do, that seems like pretty crappy software and the correct thing is to complain to the people who write and publish that tool, so it can get fixed. Not tell everyone to limit their text to ascii.

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          2 days ago

          They’ve kept it up for 5 months. Downvotes and disparaging comments haven’t stopped them. Just block them if it bothers you.

        • TheRealKuni@piefed.social
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          Oh hello, bully from every ‘80s movie and PSA. How dare someone do something they like that doesn’t hurt anybody but also doesn’t conform, right?