• Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Still can’t fucking believe Denmark, my country, supports this. Yeah, it got revised thanks to Denmark, but it shouldn’t be revised, it should be killed.

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      7 hours ago

      Denmark not only supports it, it was and is the one country that pushes the hardest for it, from the start. Which is weird because to my German perspective, because I wouldn’t exactly associate Denmark with a police-state, quite the opposite actually, especially compared to Germany.

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        7 hours ago

        the europeans on lemmy continue to insist that americans are ahead of the fascism game; but we still don’t have chat control and have only elected one fascist so far. lol

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          4 hours ago

          You absolutely are ahead of the fascist game, so far ahead that your billionaires are funding European fascists and emboldening them.

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            3 hours ago

            our billionaires are also funding the protests again them; one of the walmart heirs is entire responsible for the noking protests.

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          5 hours ago

          Mate, USA is way ahead in fascism. EU isn’t openly disappear / deporting people yet. EU has healthcare, mostly.

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            Pretty sure fascist already broke off the UK. While I will agree the US is ahead, it is everywhere already.

            This is a worldwide problem unfortunately.

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          Name one world leader except Trump that can make the stock market crash by speaking… :)

          We dont have any big leaders in Europe that most people know by name even.

          Its all talk about Trump, Musk, Zuckerberg over here too. Like mini America. There is nobody here who is saying anything people care about. We dont even know their names.

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          5 hours ago

          Only one? Do all if the bootlickers in the house and the senate, as well as JD vance not count?

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          While we have problems here in Europe and they’re concerning, the US really has this shit on a whole 'nother level. The NSA more or less has ALL the data that enters or exits the country and probably most of what goes around public networks (so just about any ISP) within the country. Your Lemmy instance is hosted in France and from your comment I infer that you’re American (so likely situated in the US), so most likely the communication between you and the instance is all recorded and stored at 33 Thomas Street. They’re just storing everything so they can decrypt it if quantum computing breaks existing algorithms. Then there’s all the tooling the CIA and NSA have built to spy on everyone who has any even somewhat insecure smart device.

          Denmark is trying to legislate all this into happening, the US just ignores legislation when something actually disagrees with their spying

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            3 hours ago

            it’s not that they’re ignoring it; is that the legistlation doesn’t address buying it from non-government agencies and probably on purpose.

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            4 hours ago

            Barring civilians from using encryption and software deemed dangerous is a new level imo. These are the tools we have to fight this stuff, maintaining those rights is a big deal.

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              Oh I agree. If encryption becomes illegal I may actually move to another freaking continent. I have nothing to hide, but I am still not willing to compromise on privacy and security.