Because a browser doesn’t just needs to keep working, it needs to evolve to adapt to the evolving web. New technologies get developed (webgpu, csp, cors, http3, etc…, some would add AI to the list but I wouldn’t) and browsers need to implement them, and old technologies get improved (faster more secure JavaScript engines, faster document renderers).

These are all things an actively developed browser engine will have to do, and things that a 2009 fork of Firefox receiving less than 10 commits per month by a single developer won’t achieve without getting them from upstream Firefox. But if you need to rely on upstream Firefox then once again you won’t survive meaningfully without Firefox.

Or you can just do the hipster and keep on using a 15 year old browser. Maybe use lynx or w3m to cut on the bloat. Or switch to gopher. You do you, it’s not my job to convince you.

This was a one-off thing, not a rule

I’m in your same predicament. I think the long term path is to fuck ourselves until an Oracle comes to Faith Ekstrand (or another maintainer) in a dream and tells her how to make pascal work properly in nouveau. Or until the spirit of Christmas Past visits Jensen Huang.

Fun fact about Italian politics: in the Veneto region (where Venice is) the governor for the past 4 years was a super right wing guy (Zaia) that always won elections with like 90% in favour.

During his last term at some point he vouched in favour of opening a new sex change clinic in the region, bringing forth a lot of criticism from the right and his party. But this guy has a degree in agricultural science, and at a Press conference he started an argument about biology and how sex is not always a clear cut and things aren’t that simple in the real world.

Then everyone started joking about how maybe he was about to come out as leftist, and he had to clarify “no guys, I’m not leftist, I just need to take care of everyone’s rights, I’m everyone’s governor, independently of gender or sexual identity”. Bear in mind that this is all coming from a guy that during the COVID pandemic said on live TV “of course it was the Chinese, we all saw them eating live rats” (direct quote, translated).

Anyway it was funny. The leader of his party (Salvini) instead said “I think they shouldn’t approve it, I for one will never need it” and the joke was that if he became governor and you got breast cancer that’s tough luck for you because Salvini will never need breast surgery.

Yes, but you can think for yourself and you and Amy product manager know how much they would benefit (just as much as Google and Apple, other for profit companies of the same caliber) and you know they would have the means to produce such software (just like Apple and Google). So, knowing that they still decided it’s not worth the investment, you can infer that the cost would be immense.

Also, all the other points still stand.

Right, let me rephrase “no Firefox fork worth using has any chance to maintain meaningful existence without upstream Firefox”

I’m sure many forks will go on surviving from scraps if Firefox disappeared tomorrow. But they wouldn’t get anything useful done.

Let me put this into perspective, Microsoft (a trillion dollar company that would benefit enormously from rolling their own browser engine) didn’t have the resources for maintaining a browser engine.

Stupid argument. None of the various Firefox forks has any chance to keep existing without Firefox. You should still cheer for Firefox

Genova

Well, mixed with coffee It will lower the alcohol. Also it doesn’t matter the percentage if you are only drinking a little amount. In some regions of Italy in the past many people used to drink coffee with grappa, which has 37% alcohol.

A third display server would probably be either useless (as in it would not be adopted or development would not takeoff) or just Wayland but without the committee. As such it would only cause more fragmentation. Plus, not anyone has the skills and availability required to make a good display server, and as of now, most of the ones that do are working on Wayland.

P.s. if instead of Wayland like it were x11 like it would stop being “de-facto useless” and become “useless by definition”

UV is a lot more than pipx. It installs applications from pypi, without dependency hell, but it also uses hard links when possible to avoid wasting space. But it’s also a dev tool. It manages python installations, workspaces, you can use it to edit the pyproject, it can also publish to pypi, even from a GitHub action if set up from pypi. It just does a lot more.

Correction, uv isn’t in any way less an option. pypi is only the registry. If you are using pip you will end up in dependency hell, you might use something like poetry to avoid that, but uv is just better.

But… wait a minute… uv is inspired by cargo, and it’s also written in rust. That’s quite the coincidence, huh?

Also, cargo is fast, it’s rustc that’s slow, and that’s because rustc is doing advanced code analysis. Compiling rust is actually NP-hard, but in exchange for that, the compiler will catch bugs in place of the developer. Which is a good tradeoff considering that you only compile once and run many times.

“countless projects that use it that way” isn’t proof of anything. Countless projects tell you to curl a 2000 lines script into sudo bash that will fill your os with bullshit.

“the compositor takes care of things it shouldn’t” said the x11 user while using their display server that also manages printers, and also provides peripheral drivers, and also manages opengl drivers, and also provides a full graphic toolkit, and also provides remote access. And all that while treating multiple monitors like a single big monitor with a single shared refresh rate, and with no support for HDR of trackpad gestures. Yes, it really is upsetting when the screen compositor manages screen recording and double buffering. And remember x11 is so modular that the graphic server is part of the driver stack and so must be implemented for every GPU out there.

P.s.: anyone that thinks the Unix philosophy has any value should not touch xorg with a 10 meter pole. It does many things, badly. But sure, it does allow any unprivileged program to read and write to the framebuffer, so be my guest if that’s your thing.

This is a “a tree falls in the forest” type of bitching.

Do you, yes you the commenter, have free will while you are sleeping?

Who would buy a transphobic Christmas card? Even if you are a conservative, what’s the point of a transphobic Christmas card, what does it have to do with festivity? Like, you gift it to friends and family and they go “oooooh, this is so hateful! merry Christmas!”

I’ll just repost the same comment I wrote the first time someone posted this meme:

It’s a small form factor PC, pre-installed with Linux and steam. Period.

Can you build something more powerful cheaper? Probably

Can you build something more powerful with the same form factor for cheaper? Maybe, probably not… We don’t know.

All of those are beside the point.

They sell millions of desktop PCs pre-installed with windows, they often make terrible hardware choices, and don’t even have a small form factor, if they do they have the computing power of a laptop. All of this at an unreasonable prices. At the very least the steam machine will be better value than those. Anyone who would consider one of those PCs, might consider a steam machine instead.

Go on wplace and guess from the drawings where they live. Apparently it’s full of femboys and furries where I live, but I haven’t found any yet

That’s also slower than most of the stuff you could come up with, it is so slow that there is no hyperoperation fast enough to describe it. There were other approaches that were almost worse though, like “the function is a switch-case that returns false by default. As complaint tickets are opened, more cases get added to the switch-case”

Please don’t do that, I was stupid when I wrote that. But still, in very dynamic languages like python or js everything is an object, including functions, so you can just do object stuff on them.

The implementation is not very exciting, I capture a variable in python. It could have been done more cleanly.

The proof is this. But, I could have made mistakes, it was many years ago.

Note that in python you’ll never be able to run is_even(5) the stack cannot handle it

Edit: daaaamn, that variable is ugly as hell. I would never do things like that now.