Lemmy is no different than any other social media platform that thrives on hate
💯Lemmy is dominated by leftist extremists and insufferable Linux advocates. Then there’s a large section of the mentally unwell. And a whole category of communities filled with automated copies of Reddit posts and zero comments.
Happy healthy well adjusted and successful people are not Lemmy. It’s mostly the lunatic fringe.
The modding of communities into echo chambers is more extreme than on Reddit even. Productive political debate is impossible here.
I’m pretty happy but not that healthy from a chronic illness so maybe you have a point.
Idk I’ve had I would say a majority good interactions on lemmy, I’ve definitely seen people being cringe and rude but that doesn’t seem to be the norm. Maybe it’s just because I qualify what I say a lot to not be misunderstood idk
I mean, you don’t have to be on here. Go make your own instance with blackjack and hookers.
It’s not really surprising that self hosted decentralized open source platforms became popular with the Linux crowd, and it’s not really surprising that the Linux crowd are leftists.
But they were nice enough to let you use their work for free so you can make your own little part of the Internet that has the things you want
Honestly, my experience is that the Linux crowd are some of the most wholesome people on here, but otherwise I mostly agree with you. I was very quickly disillusioned about this platform being any better than all the social media shit I had just left behind. There are still good people and instances here and I hold on to the ones I have found, but the rest of my Lemmy experience has been very disappointing.
Well, in some of your comments here you’ve very nicely formulated conclusions about Lemmy, which are, i think, spinning constantly in many Lemmy users’ heads — there are indeed many cons presented on platform. Not only because people, while moving on “another platform”, usually forgot to also adapt their behaviour to some new platform, but they moreover bring with them loads of bs that is acceptable on other platforms mainly because of the way they operate. However, some people do it on purpose — to make all possible places as shitty as possible (they kinda build their own image).
Another thing is Lemmy’s technical limitations — it’s not a big corporation making money on selling sensitive user data to ad providers and brokers. So, yes, no fancy features, top-tier functions. Honestly, i have no idea about how exactly devs are running platform nor how they planning to run it in the future. Anyway, for now, i just able to accept it as it is currently presented.
It’s nice that you’re trying to keep your feed clean by blocking unwanted instances and/or particular communities. But there are at least a couple of hundreds of communities on fediverse, and at least ~25% are those not abandoned, actively posting.
This is a real inconvenience of a platform: why not to let users just pick a bunch of communities they like from a big list and then feed will contain only posts from selected communities. C’mon, there must be some other much less painful method to let users discover new places on platform. Another major pitfall for me is that some instances and/or communities within them block access to their content for other ones. Personally, i don’t think that atomisation and alienation are the points of federation.
Let me also add, that Lemmy, despite it’s kinda unique nature, is still an object of monitoring and tool of propaganda and manipulation. Yes, we want some big place on the internet to be exclusively for cool interesting stuff and adequate conversations, but… intelligence 👮🏽♂️ always steps in and does it’s worst preventing any attempts of cozy cohabitation. Thou, i’ve seen some definitive tendencies for balance, adjustments for neutrality and compromise in terms of politics and other sensitive topics in major communities and lately there was some significant progress imo + algorithm breaching techniques were quite weak and i’ve seen as less unwanted content as it’s possible for now. However, different parties are constantly seeking for ways to abuse platform and flood it with some total 💩
Moreover, certain countries’ intelligences invest in this kinda shit very hardly, so i cannot really imagine the amount of problems everyone is dealing with in here: from developers to community owners and moderators, and to regular users.
Usually, i don’t scroll much of a feed and go straight to preferred communities. Yet, for me it’s still quite interesting to scroll down sometimes and see if there’s any unwanted content (and also what’s going on with certain people’s minds to be ready for bs floods). It’s often presented, unfortunately. Ironically, some of this content included complaints from user, who was unable to block all unwanted instances and communities — while that user’s instance turned out to be unwanted for me 🌚
leftists… some of them behave more like fascists, or nazis. Not really surprisingly, coz their brainrots are just an extremes of very similar bs, ideologies based on hostility, constant violence and repression for “sustainability”.
Only small amount of non-ultra left or right people are able to communicate adequately and defend their position — they often even adequate enough not to consider themselves a part of any modern bs ideologies and so they’re just individuals who had appropriated some, idk, the way they perform some little domestic things, prepare meals and so that makes them a bit “conservative” or “liberal”, but they’re ok, even cute sometimes.
But i still get this unwanted content with agitation on “action” (terrorism really), that everything is rotted, end is near, etc. and patridiots screeching on absolutely everyone with different opinion (all 😼, can’t change anything, hooked up on some copium or some other triggering for sensitive people, provocative stuff) — in their instances they usually never get banned, thus they ban everyone else, in order to make their poor dumpsers look civilised; they clean any dissidence so hard it’s implied like there are some random casual conversations between absolutely normal human beings (yeah, that’s exactly why they just always come to consensus in all disputes), while, of course, their communies are strictly moderated and censored as some happy gulag camps or recordings of ice camps of absolute innocence.
There is no perfect social media experience. Politics can and will and have always been a part of people interacting online, but it used to be more balanced where people would also talk about their interests and geek out about things that makes them, you know, happy.
Lemmy has plenty of potential to have that balance, but politics bleeds into everything and when I say politics I mean the most angry, vitriolic and hateful version of it. There are ways to talk about politics where it is fruitful, interesting and enlightening. On Lemmy it is none of those things. It is just angry people projecting their misery onto everyone and everything around them. It doesn’t get dumber than that and I want no part of it, so I block it.
💯Lemmy is dominated by leftist extremists and insufferable Linux advocates. Then there’s a large section of the mentally unwell. And a whole category of communities filled with automated copies of Reddit posts and zero comments.
Happy healthy well adjusted and successful people are not Lemmy. It’s mostly the lunatic fringe.
The modding of communities into echo chambers is more extreme than on Reddit even. Productive political debate is impossible here.
I’m pretty happy but not that healthy from a chronic illness so maybe you have a point.
Idk I’ve had I would say a majority good interactions on lemmy, I’ve definitely seen people being cringe and rude but that doesn’t seem to be the norm. Maybe it’s just because I qualify what I say a lot to not be misunderstood idk
Some examples:
me raising a point counter to the post and generally nice replies
friendly discussion on lemmys user numbers
Me responding slightly rudely to someone discrediting protestors
I’m wondering what you think makes people “unwell” here, specifically. Care you explain?
I mean, you don’t have to be on here. Go make your own instance with blackjack and hookers.
It’s not really surprising that self hosted decentralized open source platforms became popular with the Linux crowd, and it’s not really surprising that the Linux crowd are leftists.
But they were nice enough to let you use their work for free so you can make your own little part of the Internet that has the things you want
Honestly, my experience is that the Linux crowd are some of the most wholesome people on here, but otherwise I mostly agree with you. I was very quickly disillusioned about this platform being any better than all the social media shit I had just left behind. There are still good people and instances here and I hold on to the ones I have found, but the rest of my Lemmy experience has been very disappointing.
Well, in some of your comments here you’ve very nicely formulated conclusions about Lemmy, which are, i think, spinning constantly in many Lemmy users’ heads — there are indeed many cons presented on platform. Not only because people, while moving on “another platform”, usually forgot to also adapt their behaviour to some new platform, but they moreover bring with them loads of bs that is acceptable on other platforms mainly because of the way they operate. However, some people do it on purpose — to make all possible places as shitty as possible (they kinda build their own image). Another thing is Lemmy’s technical limitations — it’s not a big corporation making money on selling sensitive user data to ad providers and brokers. So, yes, no fancy features, top-tier functions. Honestly, i have no idea about how exactly devs are running platform nor how they planning to run it in the future. Anyway, for now, i just able to accept it as it is currently presented.
It’s nice that you’re trying to keep your feed clean by blocking unwanted instances and/or particular communities. But there are at least a couple of hundreds of communities on fediverse, and at least ~25% are those not abandoned, actively posting. This is a real inconvenience of a platform: why not to let users just pick a bunch of communities they like from a big list and then feed will contain only posts from selected communities. C’mon, there must be some other much less painful method to let users discover new places on platform. Another major pitfall for me is that some instances and/or communities within them block access to their content for other ones. Personally, i don’t think that atomisation and alienation are the points of federation. Let me also add, that Lemmy, despite it’s kinda unique nature, is still an object of monitoring and tool of propaganda and manipulation. Yes, we want some big place on the internet to be exclusively for cool interesting stuff and adequate conversations, but… intelligence 👮🏽♂️ always steps in and does it’s worst preventing any attempts of cozy cohabitation. Thou, i’ve seen some definitive tendencies for balance, adjustments for neutrality and compromise in terms of politics and other sensitive topics in major communities and lately there was some significant progress imo + algorithm breaching techniques were quite weak and i’ve seen as less unwanted content as it’s possible for now. However, different parties are constantly seeking for ways to abuse platform and flood it with some total 💩 Moreover, certain countries’ intelligences invest in this kinda shit very hardly, so i cannot really imagine the amount of problems everyone is dealing with in here: from developers to community owners and moderators, and to regular users. Usually, i don’t scroll much of a feed and go straight to preferred communities. Yet, for me it’s still quite interesting to scroll down sometimes and see if there’s any unwanted content (and also what’s going on with certain people’s minds to be ready for bs floods). It’s often presented, unfortunately. Ironically, some of this content included complaints from user, who was unable to block all unwanted instances and communities — while that user’s instance turned out to be unwanted for me 🌚 leftists… some of them behave more like fascists, or nazis. Not really surprisingly, coz their brainrots are just an extremes of very similar bs, ideologies based on hostility, constant violence and repression for “sustainability”.
Only small amount of non-ultra left or right people are able to communicate adequately and defend their position — they often even adequate enough not to consider themselves a part of any modern bs ideologies and so they’re just individuals who had appropriated some, idk, the way they perform some little domestic things, prepare meals and so that makes them a bit “conservative” or “liberal”, but they’re ok, even cute sometimes. But i still get this unwanted content with agitation on “action” (terrorism really), that everything is rotted, end is near, etc. and patridiots screeching on absolutely everyone with different opinion (all 😼, can’t change anything, hooked up on some copium or some other triggering for sensitive people, provocative stuff) — in their instances they usually never get banned, thus they ban everyone else, in order to make their poor dumpsers look civilised; they clean any dissidence so hard it’s implied like there are some random casual conversations between absolutely normal human beings (yeah, that’s exactly why they just always come to consensus in all disputes), while, of course, their communies are strictly moderated and censored as some happy gulag camps or recordings of ice camps of absolute innocence.
Agreed on many Linux users being polite.
What would make it better? What would a perfect social media experience look like?
There is no perfect social media experience. Politics can and will and have always been a part of people interacting online, but it used to be more balanced where people would also talk about their interests and geek out about things that makes them, you know, happy.
Lemmy has plenty of potential to have that balance, but politics bleeds into everything and when I say politics I mean the most angry, vitriolic and hateful version of it. There are ways to talk about politics where it is fruitful, interesting and enlightening. On Lemmy it is none of those things. It is just angry people projecting their misery onto everyone and everything around them. It doesn’t get dumber than that and I want no part of it, so I block it.