• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    As a cishet man, even I’ve noticed a jarring trope with LGBTQ+ representation across media.

    I don’t want to get lost in TV tropes (again) to see if this is a “thing” but what stone tablet has it been written that gay characters, particularly lesbians, have to all have tragic love stories that end with death or disaster?

    “Sure, we can show lesbians kiss, that’s hot, but we can NEVER allow them to live happily, that would be unnatural!” - Some movie studio board of investors.

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    To be fair that’s basically the case for straight characters too. Hollywood is fine with normal-looking men but all women have to be supermodels to even get a role (with a few exceptions, of course)

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      A lot of cartoonists have pointed out that most alien races are drawn with the males looking completely alien, and the females looking like hot human women with some makeup.

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          Thanks. They have another one along the same lines.

          I remember seeing a Tarzan satire where the hero finds a lost city in the middle of the jungle.

          All the men look like apes and all the women are beautiful.

          The heroes ask each other how this could be.

          There’s a note at the bottom of the panel, 'It’s because it’s easier to draw monkeys than people, but more fun to draw beautiful women

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          As has been mentioned previously, the same network censors who would have lost their minds if Kirk kissed Uhura [much less Sulu] were fine with a white guy necking with a green hottie.

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            “If” isn’t the right word, since Kirk famously did kiss Uhura. But yes, the censors were against it. The scene was filmed both with and without the kiss, so the actors “accidentally” ruined every take that didn’t include it.

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    16 hours ago

    That’s odd, because as a straight man I find gay men more appealing than lesbians 🤔🤔🤔

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      Gay men are trying to be attractive to men after all, while lesbians are not so I guess it’s not super surprising. Might mean you’re not exactly a zero on the Kinsey Scale though.

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      Yeah, Ive seen so little of gay man representation that when I do it feels almost like finding a shiny pokemon. Lesbians are not threatening to the bigot’s eye and thus if media shows gayness, it’s almost always lesbian gayness

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        Are you sure? I’ve seen plenty male gay family member representation in series and such, but almost zero lesbian representation.

        I can think of several series and sitcoms with some male gay couple; modern family, shameless and Brooklyn 99 come to my mind, the only one where there’s some lesbianism that comes to my mind is “la que se avecina” , which is a trash show anyway and both women are bi, not even lesbians.

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        It could just be a marketing thing or a Hollywood is sexist thing. I mean if you look at male and female actors, men can be a lot uglier and still get work. Women are expected to conform to a certain aesthetic. It stands to reason that the characters they play also conform to the same aesthetics.

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        I wonder if your phone would do that really satisfying “rr-rr-RRRRRR-RRRRRRR-rr” vibration pattern like it does encountering a shiny in Pokémon Go whenever you face a genuine representation of a gay man in a public space?

        Attack: 9

        HP: 8

        Authenticity: 15