Digital artists and illustrators are abandoning Elon Musk’s blogging platform X (formerly Twitter) over the introduction of a new controversial image-editing feature powered by artificial intelligence (AI). According to reports, the creators claimed that the new tool could be used to modify others’ works without their consent.
One such popular creator championing the boycott is Mu-jik Park, the renowned South Korean artist known by the pen name Boichi. Boichi is the creator of the hit manga series Dr Stone and Sun-Ken Rock.
In our world of people dismissing any issue that isn’t their own, nothing matters, and only the worst people win.
If people didn’t leave before this, this or that group getting pissed off won’t be the death of it then either.
We don’t need everyone to care about everything, but the current paradigm of not only apathy, but actively fighting against other peoples causes because they aren’t your own has really doomed us.
So you left the day he took it over as well ay?
Never had one actually. Like I might have created some temp at some point, but I’ve never really used it.
Just about the only social media I do is either anonymous, person to person (like discord) or linked in because well… for obvious reasons.
I’m not necessarily saying this is the case for these artists, but the sad truth is the current society is perfectly engineered to make the average worker as apathetic as possible.
You work 8 hours a day not counting commute and meals, which means you’re left with very little free time, and you’re really tired on top of that. Plenty of people choose to spend that time doing things that actually make them happy or relaxed, instead of looking at the state of the world and being even more sad because of learned (or sometimes even actual) helplessness.
Of course, it would be better if they didn’t, but can you really blame them when the system is stacked against us?
(Obviously the whole situation applies to the apathetic/apolitical ones, the “actively fighting against other peoples causes because they aren’t your own” bunch can go fuck themselves)
Of course, it would be better if they didn’t, but can you really blame them when the system is stacked against us?
Yes, specifically when they use even a tiny bit of that little free time to beat down others who actually try, or when they don’t pay attention to the only ways they could possibly lessen the awful situation.
Nah, they will stay there untill the site dissolves itself, some people are beyond repair.
Yeah they’ll log out in protest, but they’ll all be back in a week or so. Happens every time.
Its OK for AI to edit artist’s work because its out there
but its not OK to repair an iPhone, John Deere tractor you own because copyright applies
Not an artist, but like to brag that Idumped that shitshow before is was known as X.
If we are bragging about that, I never went on it to having with.
Never opened an account - no matter the name.
FROM THE LAST MINUTE
Artists can’t wait to leave one sunken boat, for another, a little less sunken one.
Articles titled like this and always crap
Yeah, unfortunately this was the best article I could find in English, better than nothing I guess.
“OH, WELL NOW YOU’VE GONE TOO FAR!!!”
- “Artists” who have been willingly playing in the unapologetic hate clubhouse for years after the owner nazi saluted twice at the American nazi party rally 2.0
i was telling a buddy about that who somehow hadnt seen the salute or heard of it and my other buddy said well obama did that too and mentioned others. where they were stills taken out of a video that looked like the nazi salute. so i just pulled up the video and that was that lol
Those don’t sound like people worth being friends with.
At the very least very high maintenance friendships. I don’t know if I’d have the sanity to afford them, but I’m not OP.
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“The Nazis were inconvenient, but the use of GenAI that you find everywhere else is a bridge too far!!”
that’s my literally face reading all of this.
i can excuse racism, but i draw the line on AI on X.
Yeah, I’m not going to defend training AI with copyrighted works… But I’m not going to waste energy siding with anyone who was okay with X. If you stayed in X, you’vr made your own bed. Now don’t cry because the owner is an AI-pandering nazi, we all knew that already.
It threatens their bottom line. That’s all that matters.
Generally in Japan they don’t see much of Elon’s “prowesses”, so I can kinda understand why artists like him might not have caught wind of the Nazi direction the platform has taken until it actually hit them.
And yes, Ignorantia non excusat, but it’s still something, at least.
For anyone wondering, “Ignorantia non excusat” is Latin, and it means “I speak Latin, and you don’t. Suck my balls.”
Quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur.
Factum!
Japanese here. They do know.
They choose to ignore.
Precisely because they sympathize.I’m not saying every Japanese person still on there is unaware of that, but the general coverage is MUCH smaller than what you get if you’re in English-speaking spaces.
I also heavily doubt someone of korean origins like Boichi is a Sanseito supporter, but that’s just my guess.
Sure. But the other artists in the article are English🌐 users.
Japan is addicted to their SNS anyways.
The ones in the US barely have any excuse, I agree, but it’s better to leave it late than never. Then eventually when Instagram enshittifies under that aspect too they’ll find another platform (hopefully on the fediverse).
Where are they leaving/going to?
https://s3nd.pics/ has a strong focus on artists.
Haven’t heard of that one, but I migrated to Bluesky after the whole “two sieg heils in a row on live television” thing
S3nd is more of an imgur replacement, but the devs are very anti nazi and have been vocal about it after imgur started posting ICE ads. Bluesky is a solid choice as well.
Some are moving to Bluesky. After this happened Bluesky experienced a surge in registrations according to https://bskycheck.com/stats.php
Unfortunately, the two “big names” I know of (Boichi and Kei Urana) are both going to Instagram.
EDIT: it seems at least Kei Urana is on Bluesky too
Sigh
leaving x or insta at this point means youre very… very late to the party.
Debian cut ties in January, so if you quit after that, you’re officially slower to change than Debian.
Bwahaha. It is a long-term stable decision.
+100
Ubuntu is still on Twitter. You don’t want Ubuntu to quit before you do, do you?
Damn. Disappointed in Ubuntu and I’m not motivated to distro hop. But maybe it’s time to bite the bullet. It’s tricky because I also avoid software hosted on Microsoft services such as GitHub. Ubuntu being hosted on Launchpad helped there.
Gits are backed up and migrated quick, so I’m not as worried about that I suppose.
That’s one of the rarest and finest insults I’ve ever seen
It means you’re ignorant or morally bankrupt, or at least flexible…
Misguided, uneducated, oblivious, and downright stubborn are other options. Sunk-cost fallacy can keep people stuck in a loop.
Better late than never
who tf still uses Xitter…
I literally don’t know a single person from real life that uses it.
Yeah, I never used it, except to follow links from lemmy/reddit, but even those acquaintances of mine that did use it, gradually stopped since Musk took over, with the last few leaving it around a year ago.
(My vocally pro-LGBT workplace also switched to other platforms bc our engagement noticeably dropped around that time. Either due some Musk-induced algorithm shenanigans or just users leaving in droves.)
Something like 173 million users.
minus about 90million bots. then u left with about 80million boomers
Millions and millions of shitty people.
It always bothered me how so many Twitter users in Japan just kept using Xitter after everything Musk has done to it, like they’re not even aware. I think the language barrier has been filtering some of it out until now.
But,
I am not afraid of AI; I believe in its future and potential. However, I cannot accept my work being used, learned from, or exploited without my consent.
Boichi, that’s what’s been happening with AI to everybody’s art this entire time!
There was an uproar last year (or early this year?) and a number of people jumped to Bluesky but it kinda lost steam really quickly.
they are, scroll🔼
new tool could be used to modify others’ works without their consent.
This specific part is kinda stupid.
Nothing was ever preventing anyone from modifying an artists work. Its incredibly common. No one needs consent to modify anything.
To distrubute something that isn’t yours that doesn’t fall under fair use, absolutely. But modifying without consent is a joke.
I think all the uproar is about new Grok functions that allow you to edit with AI and repost (aka distribute) images directly from within Xitter (I’m not sure that this is the case but I’m definitely not going to log in that thing to verify that).
I wasn’t going to log in to verify either lol.
Even if that’s the case, it will come down to fair use policy which will allow quite a lot.
If the specific instance of sharing isn’t fair use and Twitter allows it, then sue them, someone will. Reddit for example though is just littered with modified images and they’ve been fine. Same with Lemmy.
Edit: If someone starts trying to make money off modified images via Grok, then that becomes a much easier case to win.
If someone starts trying to make money off modified images via Grok, then that becomes a much easier case to win.
They can use it to farm engagement. Is that the same thing?
And yeah, that’s the icky part. This is a dream for spammers and “cheap SEO” types who don’t really care about copyright law in this context.
I wonder how that would go in court, I wonder if it’s been tried before? I could see an argument that if that was the intention and how they made money via gained followers, even indirectly, maybe it wouldn’t be fair use.
Edit: Like if they gain followers reposting grok modified images, and then they also show sponsored ads to their followers, now they are benefiting commercially by gaining followers via modified grok images. That might not be fair use, assuming the modified item was fair use to begin with otherwise.
Many artists explicitly state no repost without their permission, requiring proper credits and such. It IS a dick move to AIgen-fed edit while directly interacting author’s post; that makes people using the AI feature violating author’s will knowingly.
In reality, people don’t read artists’ comment or bio, when “single button to AIgen and use the art as prompt” exists. It’s basically X greenlits anyone to do so against artists’ will, and fair use can argue the use of art but never force artists to stay on a platform. That’s what’s happening. They may have overstayed on a horrible platform blinded by clout they can get there but that is a different story.
Modifying without consent
May I introduce to you, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
May I introduce you to Fair Use Doctrine.
Yes, unfortunately Boichi is leaving… for Instagram.
But hopefully this is at least a wake-up call for some artists that they should really consider leaving for platforms with “less malicious intentions”. Maybe one day someone as big as him will decide to go fediverse, we can only hope.
Swapping one boot for another…
- Everyone * should be abandoning twitter. Well, I guess the nazis can stay, it makes it easier to keep an eye on them.
Here, take this, it is dangerous to go alone
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