I lost a relative recently and I’ve been struggling with the grieving aspect. I haven’t cried or gotten visceral anger. I’m mostly just generally unpleasant right now. Impatient, easily annoyed and lack energy. Part of it is the cognitive dissonance associated. The individual was complicated, more good in the world overall, but, undeniably a lot of bad too.

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    Grief is complicated and doesn’t always look the same. When my dad died, he’d been in the hospital for a month for a surprise illness, so I had time to get used to the idea he might not make it out. His older sisters hadn’t seriously considered the possibility. I’d done some “pre grieving” and they hadn’t, so my reaction was a bit less dramatic? outwardly intense?

    A friend of mine says grief is an ambush predator. You can be going about your day and suddenly something triggers you to suddenly drown in emotion. When that hits, I just swim in it, feel my feelings, all the complex emotions that come up–anger, loss, regret.

    And as time goes on, I’ve gotten ambushed less often, but it can still feel just as intense. I have more practice swimming in it, so maybe I don’t have to excuse myself and hide in a work bathroom to cry anymore, I can just sit at my desk and focus on drinking my coffee.

    (It’s after my bedtime, so I hope this all makes sense. There’s also the Grief Box analogy, which feels accurate to me.)

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    Last time I drank. I already had a drinking problem and it was the only way I knew how to quiet my mind, so it escalated. After a few months I quit (still sober 6 years later), went to therapy, let myself feel the loss and talked about it. After a while you realise that you haven’t thought about it all day, maybe all week. You don’t forget the person and the feeling of loss stays with you, but with time it stops feeling overwhelming. But you have to let yourself feel it first.

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    I’m sorry for your loss, and for everyone in this thread who is grieving. The truth is our culture has no idea how to grieve. We are expected to keep it private, which keeps it stuck in us, as everyone who has posted in this thread can attest to.

    I went to a grief ritual in a western African lineage, the Dagara people, and their perspective is that colonialism and the evils of western culture are rooted in an inability to grieve. I don’t disagree.

    Sobonfu Somé and Melidoma Somé were brought up by that tribe to teach their grieving rituals in the west. If you can find a Dagara grief ritual near you I cannot recommend it more highly. I’ve been on a 15 year healing journey, over six months of silent Buddhist meditation retreat, over a decade of therapy, many thousands of dollars of trainings and workshops… and some things moved through me in that ritual that nothing had been able to touch prior to that. Sacred Groves on Bainbridge Island in Washington State is where I went.

    Anderson Cooper’s podcast on grief is excellent. The best book on the subject that I know of, partially inspired by the Dagara rituals, is the Wild Edge of Sorrow by Francis Weller. He’s interviewed on Anderson’s podcast here.

    I hope these resources help. You’re not alone in struggling with grief.

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      I had both grandparents, my stepfather, and my cat all die within a year and a half, then got fired because my performance started slipping.

      I can’t spend thousands of dollars to grieve, I have to suck it up and be a better robot. There is no other option for me.

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        I’m very sorry to hear that. The ritual was a couple hundred bucks for a weekend and they accepted less for financial hardship. I hope you can get some support.

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    It doesn’t work for everyone, but for me: relentless and ghoulish dark humor. I’ve told people close to me time and time again that I want my funeral to just be this:

    Picture of two men laughing at a freshly dug grave.

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    With grief, the only way out is through. Unlike other mental ailments such as depression or anxiety, you’re not going to find a cognitive distortion or flawed line of thinking that is responsible for the distress and can be challenged. Grief is logical, and we have to feel it until it becomes less intense.

    What we can do is modulate how much we’re processing at any given moment to try to keep it manageable. Think of it like that saying, “How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.” You can’t change the total size of the task, but you can control how big of bites you take.

    Finding what helps you reduce the “bites” will be personal, but starting with some general coping skills like “thought-stopping”, meditation, or any activity that keeps your mind active and occupied is a good start.

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    When my mother-in-law passed away I attended the funeral in rural China. It was weird for me as a non-Chinese, it seemed to me like everyone was being hysterical with the wailing, pulling at their own hair and clothes in grief etc.

    But I joined in anyway and looking back on it I feel that while it seemed weird at the time to grieve so publicly, it was positive to get it all out at once.

    Go do something that will start the tears flowing, watch a sad movie if you have to, but once you start let it all out.

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    I thought these two books were good. Written by a neuroscientist talking specifically about grief:

    https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/books/the-grieving-brain

    https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/books/the-grieving-body

    One crucial thing is that the popular conception of grief as 5 sequential stages is completely wrong. Those are 5 possible options out of more that you’ll likely bounce between over time. Grief is also not improved by a hangover, so it’s best to avoid alcohol and the like.

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    I feel you. I lost my dad 3 weeks ago.

    I always wanted to do some more woodworking, so that is what I did the last weeks in nearly every free minute. Dad would have loved the results, most of it I learned from him. And creating something, that helps. A lot.

    This works for me, you will have to find that will work for you.

    Be strong. And that means: strong enough to deal with you feelings and grief, not pushing it away or burrowing it

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    I like to dump my trauma on people and make edgy photography projects and then nobody talks to me and then I’m all alone

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    When I was younger — must be close to 40 years ago now — a couple that were close family friends died in a house fire. They were alcoholics. They were terrible examples for a young person and offered dubious life pro-tips. He taught me to drive. They both had a passion for life that I don’t know if I’ve seen before or since. We hung out with them pretty often.

    One of them woke up one morning, lit a cigarette, and passed back out. The place burned to the ground. I miss them to this day and wonder how things might’ve gone differently had that not happened. I didn’t cry. I was emotionally numb. I didn’t know how to feel.

    For me, there was no moment of catharsis. Not at the funeral or when they were buried. Not driving past the house. There is just a hole. And memories. So many memories, and somehow still vivid in ways that other memories aren’t. Sailing. Camping. Cooking. His stories of growing up in England. Her love of horses. They named their sailboat Dulcinea after the character in Don Quixote. She was ugly, but Don thought she was beautiful. Their boat was not ugly, but they had a great sense of humor.

    I was never able to pack that stuff away in a memory to be opened only on special occasions. They are still present with me now in a lot of ways. Things trigger memories of them all the time. I love that I had the opportunity to know them. I wish I could have known them longer, but my memories of them are all happy. Many of them are hilarious.

    We were at a fish ladder once, where fishing is prohibited, and ran into a guy who was fishing there. Rich grabbed the pole right out of his hand and threw it into the river. Fucking legend.

    I wish I had actual advice for you. The person who linked to the waves post on Reddit probably has it right — that’s some great advice. I can only say you aren’t alone, and 40 years later I’m still not entirely sure how to process their absence, but I’m used to it. I miss them just like I miss everything about that time of my life. And I still see them everywhere when I look around. Every time I pass a lake with a sailboat. Every time I try to drive a stick shift. Every time I play euchre.

    Your relative will probably always be with you. Enjoy their presence every time you remember them. Time will see to the rest.

    Be well, friend.

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    I tell myself that the grief is me feeling bad for myself.

    How did they go? Was it mercifully fast or drawn out? Was it painful? Were they ready?

    And so I try to channel my grief though empathy for their pain rather then focusing on my own feelings of mood

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      There are no negative emotions, only emotions that aren’t fun or popular. Every emotion is there for a reason.

      • Grief is there so you can make peace with the person, realize you’re not going to be here forever either and appreciate people that are still living. And more+
      • Guilt is there so you don’t do that shit again. Not a fan of religions telling you were born with it and you can only be saved by their religion, because that’s abusive.
      • Joy is there to do more of that stuff
      • And so on
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        That helps contextualize negative emotions, but it’s still totally fair to describe “emotions that aren’t fun” as negative emotions. And there certainly are emotions based in pathology and even pathological forms of grief.

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          Does it help you to think that way?

          Say your friend has a video game you want. If you fight being jealous of them because it’s a “negative emotion,” then you’re just going to be resentful. Instead, if you consider it being a clue that you really want that video game and work towards it, you can then be happy that the person has that video game and your brain will work on it to get you it. It uncomplicates things.

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            This can be true and the example you’ve provided demonstrates the point well enough. There are certainly unhelpful emotions though. I have a panic disorder which can be triggered by a few things. I’m already aware of why this happens and understand that my fear, paranoia, and sense of impending doom are byproducts of chemical imbalance. I know they’re trying to help me survive an expected threat that doesn’t exist. Those experiences offer no actionable insight. Only disruption.

            It helps if I’m able to recognize that emotional reactivity as bad and worth breathing through instead of addressing or intellectualizing. They’re just bad and need to pass so I can get back to being me.

            This is an edge case and most emotional processing is trying to tell us something helpful. Not always though!

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              Oh for sure. It sounds like you have a great way to let them pass by. That’s the intention behind what I’m saying that works for most people, but not all, as you said.