Edit: “Updating to the legacy 580xx drivers doesn’t show me a desktop anymore”, just in case someone else can stumble upon this by searching something similar.

Thanks to @deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de and @Ooops@feddit.org I did try fixing it out of curiosity. I had forgotten to install linux-headers. Hopefully someone who actually has the same problem as me, and needs to fix it, can use the tips given in the comments. On my end, I just had to install linux-headers and one reboot later it worked.

Always check if you have all needed packages and don’t just “remember” that you had them installed.

  • Val@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    10·
    5 hours ago

    I just went over to NVK. I shouldn’t really waste my time playing the graphic intensive games anyway. The indies are better.

    I tried dkms but it took so long to install I gave up.

    • edinbruh@feddit.itEnglish
      1·
      9 minutes ago

      OP has a pascal GPU, the Nouveau kernel drivers for pascal (which you need for nvk) aren’t really suitable because they can’t change the clock at runtime, you are stuck at boot clock (which you can configure)

  • Ooops@feddit.org
    39·
    8 hours ago

    “Doesn’t help” is a bit unspecific for an actual answer.

    I simply installed nvidia-580xx-dkms and nvidia-580xx-utils and that was all. If you did not already use the dkms-driver package before you of course also need <your kernel>-headers and dkms (but the latter should be pulled as a dependency for nvidia-580xx-dkms anyway)…

    Which automatically asks for the removal of nvidia-open (the standard package for the base linux kernel) or nvidia-open-dkms and nvidia-open-utils that replaced the earlier nvidia, nvidia-dkms, nvidia-utils packages when 590 hit.

    PS: If you still have stuff using 32bit add (you might have guessed the scheme by now…) lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils to replace lib32-nvidia-open-utils

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      3 hours ago

      This is the way. I will edit the text of the meme to show the solution at the top. As I had said to another commenter, I could’ve sworn I had linux-headers installed. This is why you check even if you are sure you have a package. Hopefully someone having this issue will stumble upon it randomly.

  • Jack@slrpnk.net
    5·
    5 hours ago

    What is the difference between arch drivers and say pop_os (my current daily)?

  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de
    67·
    10 hours ago

    You need a couple things:

    • The kernel driver (dkms)
    • Userspace component
    • Kernel headers (for dkms)

    First get your kernel headers, this is easy enough, but varies based on which kernel you have installed. The format of the package name is {kernel}-headers. If you have the linux kernel, get linux-headers. If you have linux-lts, get linux-lts-headers. If you’re not sure on this, the command pacman -Q | grep linux searches for installed packages containing linux in the name. If you have multiple kernels installed, get the headers for all of them.

    Then install (from AUR) at least nvidia-580xx-dkms (display out) and nvidia-580xx-utils (Acceleration, like 3D and video decoding). If you have Steam or play Windows games under Wine, be sure to get lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils too.

    Also of note is the order in which you install things. Having the kernel headers installed is important for the DKMS modules to install succesfully. If you already have nvidia-580xx-dkms but were missing your kernel headers, you should reinstall it after installing your kernel headers.

    • skarn@discuss.tchncs.de
      11·
      4 hours ago

      I keep hitting my face on the fact that DKMS modules somehow don’t depend on the kernel headers and these have to be installed manually. This happened to me both in Arch and in Debian.

      Why does everyone seem to think that this makes sense?

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Thank you very much. I could’ve sworn I had linux-headers installed. Frankly, I might’ve had them on a different device for some other reason. This is why you check your packages kids.

  • Ada@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    17·
    10 hours ago

    You have btrfs and snapper, and just roll back to a working version in the grub menu, and install the legacy drivers before it all goes wrong

    • Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish
      3·
      6 hours ago

      How do you roll back in the grub menu? Is that a feature of grub?

      When I update the kernel it replaces both options in systemd-boot so rolling back snapper is a scary endeavor due to kernel - system mismatchs

        • Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          4 hours ago

          It seems it requires you don’t mount the EFI system partition over /boot so it’s included in snapshots, and systemd-boot doesn’t support booting from arbitrary partitions

      • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        4 hours ago

        how is it? I heard it’s a good hardware but terrible drivers, at least on windows. I don’t know the state of intel GPU drivers on Linux.

        • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
          1·
          3 hours ago

          It’s quite an upgrade from my previous setup so I cannot tell you if it is good since my comparison is a 1050ti… But they’ve also made improvements to the drivers, even on windows as far as I remember.

        • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
          1·
          3 hours ago

          I did and I am quite happy with the state of them. Also Linus himself is using a B580 so it can’t be that bad (he doesn’t game on it)

  • chocrates@piefed.worldEnglish
    7·
    9 hours ago

    Oh man, I remember fondly the days of booting to no gui. Typing out error codes to another computer to Google.

    I don’t think I miss it. Linux has been super stable for me for a decade maybe, and I’ve been trying to game on it, so I used to have to fight with “faster” drivers all the time

  • Lembot_0006@programming.dev
    81·
    10 hours ago

    Modern schoolkids don’t read, so Arch should consider making 20-minute videos for every update. And a song like some of the *BSD.

    • Ooops@feddit.org
      5·
      8 hours ago

      nvidia was automatically replaced with nvidia-open (also nvidia-open-lts, nvidia-open-dkms etc).

      Simply installing nvidia-580xx-dkms, nvidia-580xx-utils (and lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils because Steam still needs all that 32bit stuff), which automatically removes the 590-open stuff because of conflicts, should be all you need to do.

      PS: And of course your kernel’s header package if you did not use dkms before… (dkms should be pulled as a dependency automatically)

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      5·
      10 hours ago

      I did try that as well. The legacy drivers did install from the tty, still the system doesn’t see them, for lack of a better word. It is not a big issue though. I had already planned on upgrading since my current setup is very old.

      Half of the new components have already arrived. The current PC will become a little home server running either Ubuntu or Debian most likely.

      I just thought the situation was funny.

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      6·
      10 hours ago

      I was working on a little Intel NUC on the side that had memory issues. And during that I just sudo pacman -Syu on my main machine without thinking.

      I did also read the announcement before upgrading which makes it even better IMO.