So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.

What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?

Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.

On which one should we put our weight?

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    I see a lot of piefed posts on Lemmy - are we not federated across so that we’re getting the milk without needing to buy the cow?

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      It is still important to support the better project, be it with our attention, or with our money/donations. What “better” means here depends on the metric.

      Again, in this time and age, specially with everything going on around the world, I would hope that there is more thought about using/buying something.

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        I mean, I don’t jump from trend to trend, so I’ll support Lemmy until either the project gets depreciated and no more updates happen. I can still see everything because piefed is federated, so why jump from platform to platform every few months? What features really are there that make a difference?

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          On top of what others have said, I’m going to recommend piefed to my friends when they want to jump in because of the built in on boarding.

          From the start it’ll show you and let you pick what topics you might like to see (so sort of like multireddit that groups together similarly themed communities into one feed / group), and shows what you want to filter and partially hide and or outright block posts with certain terms. It just kickstarts someone new so quickly with what they would want to see rather than going to all view and swim through a lot of posts that might turn you off of Lemmy/mbin/piefed.

          And like you said Lemmy and piefed still federates with each other so still can leverage the content already existed.

          And later on you could create your own topics/grouped communities just like multireddits.

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          For me I jumped the ship because ever since I got introduced to Lemmy, the knowledge of who the main Lemmy devs are left a really sour aftertaste to everything.

          Piefed doesn’t have this baggage and as you say - Lemmy and Piefed can federate so I can still keep connected in the communities. And you can export your Lemmy profile and import to Piefed so the switch is really easy (though saved posts don’t get imported, but oh well).

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          Piefed lists comments from crossposts together, grouped by post, so there is less repetition due to crossposts.

          Piefed lets me tag users so I can mark who is a dumbass and not worth replying to, which is nice because I block fewer users and don’t miss out on their posts that are fine because their comments elsewhere are terrible.

          The two things I don’t like about piefed is that they don’t have a compact view for image posts and they don’t make the modlog easy to get to or search.

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          Piefed has flairs, custom feeds, events, scheduled posting, hashtags, word filters, emote reactions.

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        It is still important to support the better project

        If everyone went to the “best” instance it would crash it…

        Like, you do realize the whole “decentralized” thing is why most of us are here, right?

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          OP is talking about the software all of the instances run on, not the individual servers themselves.

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            I would say that having a variety of software options also helps keep one party from having too much power, which is the main focus of federation. It’s not as important as having a variety of instances, but we can have both, so why not take advantage of it?

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              I would say that having a variety of software options also helps keep one party from having too much power

              I don’t disagree, but since Mbin, Piefed, and Lemmy are all open-source and interoperable, none of them can ever have any meaningful power no matter which one became dominant, as each project can be forked if they go off the rails or if development from the OG devs stopped (as happened with Kbin, which was forked into Mbin).

              As an example, the app ‘Organic Maps’ recently had controversy because the main dev was using donated funds for personal expenses without informing anyone. This caused a lack of trust, and it was just forked into CoMaps instead. That’s the inherent advantage of free and open-source software.

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          This is not about an instance, it is about a project.

          And also, different people have different metrics for what constitutes “best”. Picking what one would think is “best” would not crash an instance. What are you talking about…

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            It would not crash an instance. What are you talking about…

            Ah, someone who wasn’t around for the reddit exodus to Lemmy.

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      Not really. I think its more like everyone gets free milk but the lemmy milk has tankies in it.

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        God, I hate tankies. I definitely worry about the future of lemmy with how nuts the developers are

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          I wouldn’t necessarily say I “hate” them but god any sort of interaction is just tedious.

          I do have a lot of respect for the lemmy lead dev in that he’s been a pioneer in the fediverse, and lemmy has become a popular opensource project. However, his ideological views are incompatible with mine, and he seems unusually passionate about them.

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          Yeah I like Lemmy, i donate and have massive respect for the devs that worked hard for years building this software. But their views are disgusting and it will kill Lemmy eventually. We’re to small at the moment to start infighting so I dont worry to much about it. At the moment its more important for people to move away from corporate platforms to free and open platforms.