• Devial@discuss.online
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    It’s not really spying, it’s not it like it reports to the government what you print.

    This is literally an identical feature to what is already in every single ink printer on the market, that blocks printing or copying of currency.

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    So reading the commentary in the first link, if you flash your printer with new GPL firmware that bypasses these restrictions, you’re now in violation.

    And what if I move (back) to WA with my printer purchased out of state that I’ve already modded?

    I see what they’re trying to do, make ghost gun production illegal, but turning makers into criminals for flashing their printers with new firmware seems the wrong way.

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    So Amazon can buy the data, know what we’re printing, steal the designs and make a product for it, capturing the market they only know existed by spying on us. Knowledge is power and I’d rather not further empower the psychopaths who are primarily responsible for the widespread reduction of our qol. But the idiot masses won’t give a fuck because they’re foolish and never think anything they want to do is bad.

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      You do know that any regular printer you have/use, for at least a decade, has an identical feature against printing/copying currency ?

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    O just love that true one single product bthat allows you to replicate itself in an open non spy way now must have spyware.

    Politicians are idiots

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    That’s Washington state, not DC.

    Surveillance capitalism and the fascists always find a way to debase everything good that people like.

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    They haven’t stopped at printers, they have everything now constructed to spy. Even a lot of things that have no legitimate purpose being connected to the internet. Soon we will not be able to find the non “smart” devices. We can’t take batteries out of electronics that can spy on us anymore. It’s a federal felony now to alter the programming on an electronic you bought as well.

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      People who can’t imagine that should try buying a non-smart TV. It’s fucking impossible, unless 24-32 inch are enough for you (PC monitor size).

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    Heeeeeyyyyyy. I have a k1c with cfs, is there open source support? I’m dumb, I like the printer, and the cfs is alright. Not thrilled about the opaque software and definitely not thrilled with ‘cloud intrgration’

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      18 hours ago

      I have a Prusa XL, and the reason is, Prusa is (still) mostly open-source. And quite frankly it’s the only reason why I stick with Prusa, because technically they’re behind the curve.

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        Same. Still like their support and community too. It’s not so far behind that I feel like it’s a compromise to the point where I can get it to do everything I want it to do. I’m paying for my open source preference and the support / community instead of the most modern fancy features. I want both, but I’d still choose the former especially when the latter seems to involve more and more privacy infringement.

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          I’m paying for my open source preference and the support / community instead of the most modern fancy features. I want both, but I’d still choose the former

          I try to apply the same logic whenever I can too.

          For instance, my laptop is a MNT Reform: it’s a very good laptop, but it’s literally 6 times the price of a comparatively-specced laptop from a big-box store.

          And my cellphone is a Fairphone 5 running Ubuntu Touch. I chose the Fairphone for the repairability and increased openness, but it’s also 2 to 3 times the price of a more common brand cellphone with similar performances. And Ubuntu Touch itself comes with its own set of restrictions, but that’s the price of trying to be as free from the Android ecosystem as possible.

          So yeah, you can do open, but the choice is very limited and you pay a lot for the privilege.

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            I chose the Fairphone for the repairability and increased openness, but it’s also 2 to 3 times the price of a more common brand cellphone

            Only outside of Europe or their free-trade partners, in Europe I can get a Gen 5 for 400€ and Gen 6 for about 550€. It’s extremely annoying for most countries, but regarding the US it’s 100% their regime’s fault for not having any comparable company (they get immediately smushed by Google, Apple & Co by any means necessary) or at least low / no tariffs with the EU zone (Trump literally killed a done deal in this regard one week before ratification with his threats of invading Greenland).

            For instance, my laptop is a MNT Reform: it’s a very good laptop, but it’s literally 6 times the price of a comparatively-specced laptop from a big-box store.

            Now that’s really special. :D There are a lot of “normal” (x86) devices on the market that are way more affordable as well. For a while Slimbook offered a modern native Linux laptop for <500€, and there are also companies like System76 (US), NovaCustom (NL) or Star Labs (UK) with laptops running on open firmware that come with less restrictions and powerful hardware.

            For people who aren’t (yet) poor it’s mostly a problem of discoverability and lack of knowledge not to go with the more sane products. We get bombarded with ads promising the best experience on the usual platforms (that are as manipulative as possible). BambuLab also plays this game perfectly, their influencer marketing paired with VC-funded undercutting prices are top notch in getting people locked into their garbage.

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        I don’t get why they insist on sticking to their own somewhat inferior software platform when a good, 100% open source, and better performing alternative exists with klipper.

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          Helper script (2nd link) is easier to use. simple AF (first link) is fully open source, but requires you to use another bed leveling probe - no open source „driver” for prtouch- the built in one (which is slow and not terribly accurate anyway).

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          Creality Helper Script is a must have. My K1C has run it through the very first second. Getting as much open source (for a reasonable budget) and control on my marines is the main decision factor for my purchases.

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    Am I understanding this bill wrong? (Not English native)

    This is bill is about blocking ability to print firearms related stuff and not about spying customers?

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      How do you block firearm parts at the printer level without analyzing and judging the files a user provides?

      Even if this was possible (it’s not), most printers don’t have the kind of processing power needed to reverse slicing back into the solid object so that it can be compared with banned parts. They’d either have to put in much larger computers and spike the cost per unit or do it server-side and be always-online.

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        This is exactly correct. Its like these people are not giving it one thought.

        There are two bills one says to not sell to criminals and to not allow them to operate the machines…hmm okay…

        Hey, I’m selling my Bridgeport!

        Hey I want to buy it!

        Are you a Felon?

        No

        Prove it, please fill out this application form so we can send it off to the government for review.

        No thanks!

        Wait so are you a Felon or just because its stupid and intrusive?

        Stupid and intrusive!

        Okay thanks!

        Hold on, my raspberry pi just got done comparing the model to one of a million different barrels. This will take a while…

        Ten years later…

        The new raspberry pi 34 can do 3 comparisons per day! And on just 10mW! Wow!

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        I totally agree with you, like always politician have an idea but don’t even state how to realise it… So possibly this will actually never happen.

        One thing that come to my mind is that manufacturer could maybe use some kind of hash database of firearms related files. While printer are not very powerful, that’s something that could be done on slicer but that would mean the death of open source software (at least in USA) as to implement this every manufacturer would need to force customer using their slicer. Also, wondering how much power demanding it is for printer to recreate solid object, could they just read gcode to analyse object? and since guns are not 25cmx25cmx25cm, it’s not like this would take ages to analyse.