An Australian app, so you can say “Epstein” on this one but still not “stop the genocide and colonisation of Palestine”. At least the hate speech manager (for now) isn’t an ex-IDF Zionist and the platform (for now) is not expressly pro-Israel / pro-genocide.
Is this like UpDog?
What’s UpDog?
not much, how 'bout you?
Oh come on. Another centralised social media service that could be compromised. Wtf is wrong with these people
At least they are showing a willingness to move
They follow what is advertised. Fediverse, by its nature, doesn’t have money for this. There was a push for Mastodon, though.
When you say there was a push, do you mean there was a time when they did have ads, or do you mean the community push with the twitter troubles?
The community push, mainly. But there seemed to be a PR campaign to capitalize on it. I don’t know if there were official adverts.
Ah okay, that was my understanding as well. I was curious if anyone had tried making an ad.
I think it’s hard to host a video-focused social media on the fediverse, I imagine it would have a high cost to maintain.
Also PeerTube
oh damn, I didn’t notice it is open source at first
Build it on top of Bittorrent. If you like a post, you’re seeding it. When you want to stop seeding it, your like goes away.
Then popular things will have a large pool of seeds mitigating much of the bandwidth cost to the instance host.
With the side effect of making manipulating the voting algorithm with bots a lot more expensive.
I think people would be pretty quickly upset by the batter and storage drain from this. I have to imagine if picking an instance is a barrier to mastodon, most folks are not interested enough to learn the mechanics of why likes suddenly use system resources, and see it as a failing of the app.
Plus the network usage for people with data caps, ISPs who throttle you for any p2p traffic etc it’d be a mess. Not to mention torrents usually have a ‘ramp up’ time as they find and connect to peers, probably not what people used to and endless stream of autoplaying short-form videos would want.
I don’t see any other choices other than:
- You host it yourself. (Peer to Peer social media)
- You pay someone else to host it for you. (Instanced social media)
- You trade your digital freedom, privacy and political stability of your country to someone else to host it for you. (Meta, X, TikTok)
3 hasn’t been working out so far and people really don’t want to have to pay another subscription. So you can spend your battery life and data instead. Maybe setup the service so that other people can seed on your behalf, so you could use your own resources or pay for someone elses all in the same ecosystem.
Peertube does a similar thing, using bittorrent to share the load, but it only works while you’re actively watching the video so outside of very popular videos it is usually just the instance who is providing bandwidth. By tying the data sharing directly into the primary interaction method it creates a much larger pool of peers and, eventually, once everyone stops seeding it the data stops existing.
No permanent record of everything you’ve ever posted, no central repository of data to be hoovered up by the AI startup who pays off the instance owner, no empowering a single person to control all of social media for their own selfish ends.
I am aware of the problems and have had similar thoughts about how best to deal with the taxing reality of streamed video, but I think the reality of it is, while already fighting the network effect and ad budgets, someone that downloads an app and see it saps half their battery for that day because they liked 5 videos and left, they are going to uninstall it.
I think instanced makes the most sense, and even that would be a hard ask if popularity every spikes.
I think the fact that Peertube which I think of as more a PC interface, where bandwidth and power consumption are less an issue, but still chooses to limit the peer connections to active watching speaks to how discordant the idea is with what people expect from streaming media.
I would happily use a desktop app as you described, so if it ever exists, let me know 😁
Yeah how come they won’t hop to a tankie filled content desert that is Lemmy? Where else will they find Facebook memes and US politics?
Is “remain ‘impartial’ to political agendas” a dogwhistle for “tolerates Nazis” or have I just become too cynical
No you’re not too cynical. You’re paying attention
Wow the ads for this app keep appearing! It will be another blue sky in less than a year
Ahh the topic for zero Lemmy/Fediverse fucks given.
Not federated. Nothing stops this app from getting worse in the future, right?
I trust my palestinian brother who created it
If they’re brown, they can’t let you down.
Idpol in a nutshell
I wish we had a good term to describe making assumptions about how an individual will behave based only on their nationality, race, or ethnicity.
Well, Kanye never fails to entertain…
They’re leaving like redditors to Lemmy. There’s dozens of them!
It’s more like Twitter to BlueSky, which was a pinch more.
… and just resets the cycle
There is always Loops
You get to watch a couple of videos only without logging in. No search.
Yikes.
Sadly no way to host your own instance yet, but it does look promising.
There already are quite a few instances actually, but they’re all trash tier for now, except for the dev-operated loops.video
The git repo has a server installation guide.
IIRC that’s old news and you can now self host and there are other instances up.
Is there any discovery or list of other instances?
They are switching in huge numbers. Literally dozens!
I looked it up in the App store out of curiosity and holy crap that app almost as bad as TikTok for privacy. Though I suppose people jumping ship from TikTok aren’t too concerned about data privacy or else they wouldn’t have been using TikTok in the first place.
So, from the old brain rot to a new brain rot? Cool!
It may just be a hype but I’m upvoting it.
So when it was owned by China with the same spiral of destructive propaganda it was fine? ok
It will get worse than in China. It will be a tool to protect dictatorship in the usa, the american gestapo and protecting Israeli genocide
Presumably when China asked for your immigration status or sexual orientation, which they didn’t, it wasn’t to send you to the camps.
So yeah, for Americans it would be worse.
Was tiktok trying to prevent people from talking about the PedoTUS’s best bud Jeff, even in DMs? Or is that part cool with you?
I’m not that deep into MAGA lore that I’d knew what PedoTUS means or who’s Jeff and I’m sure TikTok sucks more than ever, but my point is, it always sucked infernally, from day one, and never should have been used in the first place.
PedoTUS
The president (POTUS)
Jeff
Epstein
never should have been used in the first place.
Yes, and now its much, much worse.
The president (POTUS)
The pedophile president, you can’t forget to address Donnie Diddler by his proper title
I prefer rapist/child rapist to describe him, a bit more direct and accurate.
Especially since people like him aren’t primarily pedophiles, because we all know that for the orange fuhrer it’s about having power over a human being that can’t defend itself, not because of attraction - he’s only attracted to gold.
Also accurate, and those titles would have been acceptable as well. We just have to remember to use them.
User has strong options on topic they know very little about, news at 11
How is the change any worse than the current state? Isn’t this all just propaganda anyway to tank the value after the change?
TikTok is now US-controlled media. They’re doing basically the same thing China does, using it to spread propaganda and suppress critical news. That’s why Biden wanted it gone but Trump, as usual, undid all of the progress that was made and used it to increase his personal wealth and power.
Isn’t this all just propaganda anyway to tank the value after the change?
What?!
Larry Ellison bought it last week, bad things you’re hearing isn’t “propaganda”…
It’s people who know what is happening, or even just who Larry Ellison is
They’re blocking the word ‘Epstein’ in DMs and also asking people to list their immigration status.
idrc since the algorithim sucks on all, tried desperately to make my feed only show me edm and 3d modeling/animation content, nope, I see the same controversial low effort garbage everyone sees
Hopefully jumping between different model but same shit highlights the bigger picture. And maybe just some of them may even say enough is enough.
