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    They aren’t “powering everything”. JFC go lick a wall outlet, that’s what powers many things. WiFi is information, and indeed, they try to make it use less and less power.

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    Heard some conspiracy folks mention negative frequencies from 5G and the like. It’s just a phase I guess…

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      Negative frequency is a concept in signal processing, and many other domains.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_frequency

      Phase could be the thing, beats me, it’s been a while. Negative resistance is also another one of those concepts that pop up now and then, specifically negative differential resistance.

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    You guys, energy, frequency and vibration are all obviously fake. Nobody has ever observed vibration in real life. Go on and try measuring one of those “frequencies”, I’ll wait. Where are you even supposed to find those? “A faucet dripping”? “Your literal heartbeat”? Don’t make me laugh!

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    You can map out the inside of a building and figure out where objects are, and when and where movement occurs, with WiFi.

    You cannot do this with magic woo woo nonsense that equivocates and conflates terms across different domain specific meanings, and then attempts to build a world view out of confused, meaningless/contradictory gibberish.

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    Okay but some rocks do have an energy and vibe. This is scientifically proven, the energy is radiation and the vibe is hatred. Pretty fucken useful for a variety of things though, like antique glow in the dark plates.

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    I absolutely believe in energy, frequency, and vibration. My wifi vibrates at a frequency of 2.4 and 5 GHz and in order to do that it needs to use energy.

    Like, I’m down with hippie woo energy work, it’s really useful meditation. I use it to keep my anxiety under control. But your religion can’t cure diseases, it can only provide comfort

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      I kinda don’t believe in Energy, in the sense that I find it a useful conserved quantity to calculate stuff. Energy, or other physical quantities like fields “existing” though, is philosophical question

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      Alopatic medicine cures some stuff but what does most is treat symptoms cause what it wants is to make money not to cure disease, I’m quite sure companies making billions off insuline and chemotherapy aren’t going to even bother trying to cure something they are profiting off, in fact is much probable that they actively try to sabotage research that could end their golden goose disease treatments…

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      That’s how I feel about astrology. A horoscope is just a prompt for self reflection. But it’s fun when something feels woo woo or predictive or relatable because… its fun, idk. Its spooOoOoOoKy, it’s fun, it’s cute. Star charts are a skill you have to learn, it’s a hobby, it makes your brain work.

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        I like maps. I like puzzles. Astrology’s both.

        First got intrigued when in my ignorant militant atheism dogma phase, and someone managed to discern my sun sign, just by my appearance and behaviours. I have since gone on to do the same to others, typically with as much world-view-changing astonishment in them as I experienced.

        Can’t be bunk if that can be done.

        The observable profiling reality of it, does open minds to wondering about what’s the astrological weather like.

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          To put on my obnoxious skeptic hat, it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms. Just, with an astrological chart rather than with a calendar.

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            it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms.

            I do not know how it sounds like that to you. Seems a strong non sequitur. Maybe I’m missing something. Care to elaborate how you made this leap?

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              People who grew up around the same time and geography have the same historical pressures on what behaviors they learn. Obviously outcome varies a lot individual to individual, but it creates broad trends among large groups. Sorting chronologically brings those trends to the forefront.

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        The irony of finding two other woo-tolerant Lemmites in this comm.

        Once I learned that astrology points to themes of influence on a time frame, it made a lot more sense. Taking it literally and thinking everything is confirmation bias is how people dismiss it. There’s more than a few people that have correctly nailed a lot of big events, it’s more about technique it seems. Nick Dagen Best published a book I think in 2013 or 2016 that is hitting hard right now - totally called Trump 2 and stuck to his guns on that.

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      Meditation is awesome and useful. But it doesn’t need to be mystical and magical to be great, and I wish more people realized that.

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      Maybe can cure some diseases.

      Even just via the comfort provided. Comfort enough, to get into a parasympathetic dominant mode long enough for the body to heal itself.

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    I do believe gorilla piss exists.

    I do not believe drinking gorilla piss would grant you gorilla strength (citation needed).

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    I used to love reading W.I.T.C.H. comics and they always had a bunch of fun stuff about zodiacs and reading the future in tea leaves, moons and stars and all that silly stuff. I friggin loved that shit because it was fun for the imagination and it also tied in well with the comic being about a groups magical girls who get their powers from nature and blah blah blah. I thought it was fun to find out what my element was based on what month I was born in and what my birthstone was and take little personality tests to see which one of the girls I was like the most (9 out of 10 times, I got Taranee).

    The thing is, though: I always knew it was just play pretend and fun past time stuff.

    I have had that fun permanently destroyed for me after people started believing in astrology and magic for real. I know people irl who refer to their zodiacs as an explanation for how they like their coffee or why they push their work to last minute or why they vibe well with this and that person. They take personality tests and believe it for real instead of using it as some stupid past time fun. Online, it’s even worse. It gives me the same level of ick as the women in Sex and the City.

    It absolutely fucking ruined the fun for me and I just can’t read my horoscope anymore because I don’t want anyone to think I’m one of those people.

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      You might enjoy Terry Pratchett’s witches series. There’s magic, but the real trick is solving your problems without ever using it. Wyrd Systers or Wee Free Men are good places to start.

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        Indeed I do! Granted, it has been a minute since I last visited Terry Pratchett’s Discworld, but I have a goal of gnawing my way through 50 books this year, so I might as well peek back in. Thank you for the reminder!

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      The map is not the terrain.

      Somewhere between naive realism and “some stupid past time fun”, there are maps.

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      I didn’t even know there was comics, I only knew of the cartoon growing up. I’m the same way, only thing I do is do tarot card readings for me and my gf, we both know it’s just for fun, we also got some cool cards with the images from cyberpunk2077 so there’s that.

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    “It’s funny how people will believe in Newton’s laws of motion but still think the Force from Star Wars is mythical nonsense.”

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    They also seem to believe wi-fi “powers everything”? What a loon.

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      I peraonally belief in a really thin cable, but big tech is trying to tell us its waves and stuff. But you have your opinion, I have mine. Nobody can be sure wich one is really true.

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        i don’t believe in wifi, just like i don’t believe in trees. i know they’re there. that requires no belief.

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          The belief would be that your senses aren’t being actively deceived. Also, that you’re not a Boltzmann brain hallucinating in the void.

          I personally believe all the axioms of science apply. It’s still fun to poke at them.

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            the atheist says “i will not believe”. the agnostic says “i can not believe”. one is as dogmatic as the beliefs they purport to refute, the other lacks the capacity for dogma, as belief for them is simply not possible.

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              I’m willing to accept Atheism, ‘I do not believe in God’, as somewhat dogmatic, but as others have said, it’s the null hypothesis and they have Occam’s razor going for them. Pragmatically it is a useful stance in light of the societal harm religion does.

              I am however unwilling to conflate Agnosticism with ‘I can not believe’, always been “I’m waiting for evidence one way or the other” to me, so perhaps the more scientific point of view.

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                It’s not 3 points, but 4.

                Atheist==>Theist Agnostic==>gnostic

                There are agnostic atheists and agnostic theists.

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                to me, those last two statements are pretty close in the grand scheme of things. it was allegorical anyway, since we weren’t really talking about god.

                if there is no proof one way or the other, the pragmatic stance is to be neutral. if one side is more theoretically sound, the pragmatic stance is to assume that’s the correct side while still being open to the other. only when there’s proof of one side can you dismuss the other. none of those steps require “belief”, i.e. unfounded assumptions.

                as an aside, personally i feel like religion is one of those issues where there is proof.

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              Belief in a null is a lot more reasonable than belief in something so powerful it can pretend to be a null.

              Belief that I am not in a Truman show like environment is a lot more reasonable (without evidence) than belief that I am in a Truman show, and they are doing a perfect job.

              That doesn’t mean I don’t try disproving the null hypothesis.

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                I don’t think reasonable is even it for me, it’s just a helpful assumption.

                If they are doing a perfect job at a Truman show type situation, there’s nothing you can do, so you might as well assume they’re not and play your role.

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                  It’s more reasonable via Occam’s razor (more complexity is less reasonable, when everything else is equal). However it is still just a belief axiom. You have to assume 1 holds.

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                a hypothesis based on established facts is no longer belief but extrapolation.

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                  It’s an assumption, not an extrapolation. Assumptions, without evidence are beliefs.

                  We assume several unprovable axioms to allow science to function. A lot of work has also been done to collapse them down to the core minimum. What is left is still built on belief.

                  The fact that the results are useful back validates those beliefs. It doesn’t prove them however.

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          Oh, you’re a solipsist? You believe reality is an illusion and trees don’t really exist? I’m somewhat similar, I’m an antirealist. I recognise that reality is an illusion, but I still choose to believe in it until it can be overthrown. If we teach enough people how to reshape their beliefs and perceptions, then we can decide for ourselves whether trees exist. But at present, I need to believe in trees in order to inhabit consensus reality and communicate efficiently with the people who live here. It’s cool that you don’t believe in trees, though!

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            I’m happier with non-belief, than squirming through the exercise of deciding what to believe and disbelieve under the unchecked presumption that we must believe something.

            Even more so for the distinct “believing in” something.

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    if someone is trying to “convert” you to esoteric/occult beliefs, then that person has no idea what they’re talking about