Well, fuck. I really hoped they would pick FairPhone. Motorola is… Okay. I guess they made the Nexus 5 ; which was one of the best phones ever.
I hope they make a SMALL one, I am so tired of this GIGANTIC pixel 9.
Fairphone isn’t available everywhere while Motorola is. It’s pretty easy to understand why they chose them.
Motorola gets a little bit of love from me because they were (maybe still are?) the only ones who allowed me to shout “COMRADE MOTO!” to wake my phone up
I will not say “Hey Google” in a million years. I refuse.
How I imagine the decision:
Should we maybe port it to Fairphone? The phone most of our users probably like?
Nah let’s do Motorola instead - you know the company were you have to spin a dice to determine if your device can unlock the bootloader or not…
fair phone lacks the hardware security to run fully featured grapheneOS. Other than that it does work on fairphone.
So does Motorola…
All my phones have been Motorola, the first one was the Moto X - OG !
Very well built and great batteries. Quality phones with close to stock UI for a snappy experience. Love the Moto Actions as well.
Only negatives were updates and cameras. Both are much better these days.
Especially now with an upcoming OS alternative!
maybe my next phone will be a Motorola.
My last few phones have been Motorolas and I’ve been very very happy with them.
My only issue was that back then, I wasn’t really paying attention to alternative OSs like Graphene, Lineage or e/os and was therefore not really too concerned with ROM support/chip set. When I switched over to e/os, two of my Motorola’s (including the one I WANT to use with it) has no ROM support because it’s running a Mediatek chipset. So I’m using my second to last one while my nice new one collects dust.
Moving forward I’ll be paying more attention to Qualcomm vs Mediatek.
yeah i might focus on Android phones that have Good ROM/ support
i think their graphene OS powered phone will have bootloader unlocking.i hope Google does not take away Sideloading. (but i think graphene returns it)
i bought a mororolla 3 years ago and it still lasts 2 days on a charge. id say go for it.
i gotta see first if Motorola/Lenovo will actually ship graphene OS and other factors.
they dont sound like bad phones and even better with this collab
Android seems intent on creating a huge market for this. Chef’s kiss!
I actually bought a new Motorola phone 2 months ago precisely because i wanted a phone with an unlockable bootloader, and motorola delivered that.
Vote with your wallet.
Just wanted to echo the vote with your wallet sentiment. It’s the only power we have!
I once bought a Motorola one phone because it would have quick and lengthy updates. Motorola certainly didn’t provide that.
Other than that it was a decent phone.
Wait not like that!
I want Graphene but with none of the Moto features.
Anyone have a wild guesstimate on when this will be available?
If it wasn’t because of this
As it stands today, GrapheneOS is exclusively available on Google Pixel devices. Whatever device Motorola is building with GrapheneOS, it’s beyond even the Motorola Signature’s specs, which is currently the “flagship” in Motorola’s lineup, as even that doesn’t meet the needed requirements.
I thought first maybe one year, but that statement made me very sceptical if that is possible.
When the phone comes out lol /joking
Fr tho i think they reveal new phones every April? So if not April this year then April of next year.
Feature, like shake shake for torch?
Had that on my Moto G Plus 5G (which is a shit name btw), as well as twisty-wrist for camera.
I think they pretty much all have it, they’re great shortcuts.
Absolutely. Haven’t used mine for 2 years and I still miss it.
This is great news. While I still think we should make a push towards Linux phones being mainstream so that we don’t keep this duopoly on OSes, it’s nice to know that at least one manufacturer is currently defying googles obvious goal of suppressing third party ROMs and marketplaces.
Volla phone (has choice between ubuntu touch and android rom) seems pretty cool.
a future smartphone to have GrapheneOS pre-installed
I’ll not trust Lenovo (Motorola is Lenovo) preinstalling stuff on my phone. They’ve already ship Windows laptop with literally malware and backdoors (even in UEFI, so persistent across format) preinstalled.
I will rather install it myself.
Fully agree on that. Always better to start fully fresh, even without such problems.
That said, it’s still important that it will ship pre-installed. That way app-developers who block GrapheneOS cannot excuse their actions anymore by saying that it was your decision to use another OS, and therefore not their problem.
Motorola is a major supplier of communication equipment for the IDF and produces bomb fuses used in IDF’s bombs. It also donated money to Project 2025.Edit: there are two Motorola. The good one is the one shipping Google spyware and not updating their devices. The bad one helps Israel kill brown people.
Motorola Mobility was spun off from Motorola in 2012 and sold to Google. Then Google sold it in 2014 to Lenovo, the Chinese company that had also previously bought IBM’s entire personal computer business.
Original Motorola, renamed Motorola Solutions, retained the rights to the Motorola name in everything except cell phones, and continued to manufacture radio and communications equipment and other signal processing equipment (including stuff like cable TV boxes). They remain a major contractor for militaries, law enforcement, and fire/EMS emergency responders.
If we’re talking about Motorola cell phones, we’re talking about the Chinese owned company, not the American owned company.
Oh man I never realized there was a separate non-phone Motorola company that remained where it was. Thanks for the explanation.
Thank you for educating me.
Now I can simply not buy their devices because they suck.
That’s another Motorola. The one making phones is Lenovo who bought the brand to put it on phones.
The same Lenovo that got caught using rootkits to keep their software installed on PCs? https://www.zdnet.com/article/lenovo-rootkit-ensured-its-software-could-not-be-deleted/
that was in 2015 though
like 10-11 years ago (as of march 2nd 2026)All the major companies have too many ghosts, and will do things I do not like.
I really want to support more ethical organizations
I still haven’t forgiven Sony for shipping malware in their CDs, Lenovo will never get approval from me.
you mean like Sony shipped DRM?
Yes and when sued they provided a removal tool that put a new malware on pcs.
Are there any companies left that haven’t done some shady shit in the past?
A few small ones.
Oh shit I forgot about that, we’re old :|
do you mean Motorola Solutions or Motorola Mobility(the one Lenovo currently owns)?
I tried to switch from iPhone to Pixel 10 Pro Fold with GrapheneOS, but I needed RCS to work. Unfortunately, even installing Google Messages and allowing it permissions wouldn’t allow RCS to work for more than 36 hours before I had to go through the whole install and allow process again. I would be willing to cut off all Google services, even banking apps and whatnot, but I need RCS to work. I’m unfortunately an American and cannot reliably expect my friends and family to use an app other than iMessage to text, so I need RCS.
Will Motorola provide some GrapheneOS compatible RCS client? If so, I am likely to switch.
Could force them to use Signal perhaps
Yeah, see that’s the thing that I think people don’t really understand about americans. They won’t. I will be essentially excommunicated. I already mostly am because I don’t use Facebook or Instagram. Cutting off decent messaging by leaving imessage without at least maintaining RCS would really cut me off.
I don’t use Facebook or Instagram
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don’t useamn’t used byAmerican here, I’ve been insisting on signal for years and it’s going fine. If you’re cool enough people will follow your lead eventually, it’s a better experience and everyone else waiting to switch is being held back by the same excuse. Take your good posts and go home (to open platforms)
I am not nearly cool enough
This right here, I have never had any luck moving a single person I currently communicate with from iMessage. Dating makes this even more complicated.
Will it have a headphone jack and sd slot
If I can get GrapheneOS + headphone jack + SD card slot, I am in.
I’d really like a removable battery as well.
I’d add “less than 15cm tall” too. I’ve had enough of stupid giant phones that don’t fit in pockets and where you can’t even reach the top or other side with your thumb.
That would be like a dream come true. I’m about to become excluded from mobile technology as my phone seems to be starting to present hardware failures, and I can’t stand to use large ones.
SD slot would be great. Fuck every major company getting rid of it, so you have to use their cloud provider.
+1 for the headphone jack
