- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
Several federal agencies, including the FBI, NSA, and FTC, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they’re seeking.
The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.
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Lmao then they bitch and moan when people abroad start cutting back on us-based tech and enforcing open standards
After what Snowden has uncovered, Palantir plain in the open, companies like Meta/Facebook and Alphabet/Google shitting on your privacy , I am absolutely sure you will be subject to spying always and regardless of what you’re doing.
reddit pretty much would ban people using vpn , so they know too.
Does anyone seriously believe that not using a VPN would save you from governmental snooping?
Just think of all the children they will be protecting! (Sarcasm)
I note the range of Republicans and dRepublicans (Democrats are Republicans in every meaningful way) who support this action (not sarcasm)
As if they weren’t already scooping up people’s information already. The point of VPN and other defenses is just to make investigation too expensive to do as a free action.
I hate the way this is getting it twisted.
Just because your signal is misinterpreted does not mean you’ve waived your rights. It means their system and it’s use of citizen’s data is flawed and violates the law.
I thought the law said that inadvertent collection has to be deleted asap not that you forfeited your rights.
Right? The real irony is that those who are paid to enforce the law, and who’re sworn to uphold it, feel they’re above it - beyond reproach.
The system is sick with apathy and outright corruption.
We must save ourselves
Wow! Interesting I didn’t know
No.
Stop fearbaiting.
…Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
We have no protections and no privacy, laws or no.
Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
lmao
Yeah. That really jumped out at me. My very first thought was “Americans have privacy protections?” Since Roe v Wade was overturned, Americans have basically no right to privacy.
So in the US, locking your metaphorical doors or windows, or closing your digital curtains, means that authorities can presume you are hiding something and your 4th Amendments rights cease to be valid.
Well, while I agree with that sentiment, you may be looking at it the wrong way.
It’s not that locking your doors gives them permission, it’s that they’re just doing it whether you lock your doors or not.
Imagine you’re the NSA, imagine you’re already spying on every American who isn’t using a VPN (not because you have any legal right to, but because you can). Now ask yourself, where’s your biggest blind spot?
This is why they want legal permission to spy on people using VPNs. If they can do it legally, they can just walk right into a VPN’s server room and install whatever eyes they want on the inside.
All I’m saying, is that there is no constitutional justification for this, they don’t care. Their plan is simple, spy on everyone, fuck the law.
All while abusing Third Party Doctrine to buy your data from advertisers and Palantir anyway.
If a VPN routing of someone in Chicago is via Texas and California, what judge would see that as “foreign”? Oh, right, one of their idiot ones they like to give cases like this.
The entirety of this has made me furious so I’m leaving a comment to remember to come back and soapbox in a bit.
https://www.scribd.com/document/1017859680/Congressional-VPN-Letter-to-Dni
And the letter (because these asshats make these things difficult to find)
Lemmy, where the ND people are aware enough to know that by nature they get impulsively angry and need to cool off. I am not good at it.
I can’t tell which, if any, of these are what “ND” is supposed to mean here.
So, uh, “ND”?
My guess is “neurodivergent” which, interestingly, doesn’t seem to be on that list.
Neurodivergent?
Sorry. That wasn’t the list.
He probably means Neuro Divergent
I hope they enjoy Farscape, because that’s what they’re getting of they eavesdrop me.
“Do I hear chanting and laser gun sounds?”
- Some NSA agent, probably
Who doesn’t love Farscape?
Some fans of Lexx.
Por que no los dos?
Did they stop spying on americans. Im pretty sure snowden is still living in russia.
America should have took him seriously.
I really think there’s no worth in the average American people anymore.
I took him seriously. I was a teenager when Snowden leaked those documents, and I took it seriously.
Why do you think I’m here today?
Yeah it was pretty big. So much of modern times it just boggles my mind for anyone who grew up in the 80’s. We are literally how we portrayed russia or what we would become like if we let communism win. A whistle blower had to flee to russia. 100% bin laden won. Half my life has been in this millenium and there is a stark difference before and after (even with there being plenty which headed us in this direction).
