• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Remember when consoles would get cheaper not more expensive over time!? This thing is five years old at this point.

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      11 hours ago

      The PS2 launched at £299. Got reduced to £199 the week the Xbox came out (and stuck the nails in the coffin just as it was being born) and finished somewhere around £79.

      If only there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you left them.

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        1 hour ago

        This is also from a period of time where manufacturing genuinely got cheaper over time. Die sizes shrunk for the CPUs, so you could make the system smaller with less waste heat. There pretty much haven’t been those kinds of revisions for modern consoles

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      11 hours ago

      Well for a start that’s the PS5 Pro and absolutely nobody is buying that.

      That would be like me saying you can’t make a gaming PC without a 5090.

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          15 hours ago

          What the hell, Boots used to sell PCs? Or is that a fricky coincidence that there’s a PC store somewhere with the same name and logo as a popular pharmacy?

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      22 hours ago

      Because the equivalent graphics card is about $450, and you still need to buy a CPU, storage, RAM, PSU, and case. And it’s only the up-front cost that’s cheaper.

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        22 hours ago

        Premade desktops with a good enough you can still be found for shit 1200$ / 1000€.

        And the savings from buying on Steam/GoG instead will probably make up the difference.

        And you get a full PC as well

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      15 hours ago

      It’s the stand that comes with the console. I didn’t notice them at first and was wondering why my ps5 was a bit unstable. Just a clear little clip thing that hides underneath.

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      I mean honestly I don’t think it’s the companies choice to raise the prices on this. When you look at the cost of the materials to make it and the fact that all the other companies have raised their costs unfortunately I think this is a massive side effect to that. I mean I’m still not going to buy it I didn’t want to buy it in the first place because it was already incredibly expensive and I’m definitely not buying it. I’ve been waiting for the price to drop on it and I’ve been seeing them sitting in Walmart unsold as they are with the current prices.

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      PS5 has 16 gigs of GDDR6. I have no idea how it compares to DDR5 price-wise when bought in bulk, but 16 gigs of DDR5 has gone up by like 150 dollars over the last 9 months or so.

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    1 day ago

    I know everyone expected prices to go up but $650 for a regular PS5? OOOFFFFF.

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    Great news for the steam machine. The price difference gets smaller as they raise closing the gap.

    Thanks xbox for leaving the market to allow this.

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      11 hours ago

      But we still don’t even actually know what the steam machine is going to cost yet, do we? Could be a fucking fortune.

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      Xbox hasn’t quite left the market, they’re just slowly sleepwalking down a pier. We’ll see if they wake up before they walk off the end and end up drowning. I’m certainly not holding my breath.

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      My son is pretty lucky as I’m the only dad around with a Steam Deck and a Playstation 5.

      He didn’t even have to ask for these as I’m the one gaming the most.

      I guess none of his friends is gonna get a Steam Deck or a Playstation 5 soon with the prices or the availability of these things…

      The only good part is that maybe people are gonna learn to enjoy what they already have and devs could learn to keep developing games for old hardware.

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        Yes I remember seeing that Sony is considering waiting until 2029 until PS6 because of the shortages and stuff going on and I’m thinking dude, I’m totally cool with that.

        Gives it more time for them to really do a deep dive on optomization with the current gen and I’m here for it. I think them doing this is a sign that that will happen.

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    That’s some big bullshit there. The parts needed for the PS5 are already produced or planned/bought to fixed prices. So Sony just found an excuse to earn more money and hoping for customers to not realize it.

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      I doubt they have a contract for endless memory at X price forever. Memory and storage prices have gone up so much that the memory and storage of a PS5 has for sure risen 200+ dollars in price over the last 9 or 10 months if you buy them as separate modules as a consumer.

      Cost of 2 TB SSD and 16 gigs of RAM (what you get in a PS5 Pro at 900 EUR once the price hike kicks in) if bought as a consumer, is about 450 EUR in my country. That’s without anything else (motherboard, CPU, GPU, power supply) that the device contains. Of course it has shared memory so perhaps you should be looking at 8 gigs of memory (still 100+ EUR) and an 8 gig graphics card of roughly equivalent TFLOPS since it’s kinda hard to put a value tag on the other features its’ GPU has - The RX 7600 starts at 300 EUR. So that’d be like 250+100+300 for storage + RAM + GPU. Still without a CPU, power supply, or any other electronics. Shit, the cheapest wi-fi 7 module I can find on sale in my country alone is 80 euros.

      Worst part is, RAM and storage prices aren’t really even showing any signs of slowing down.

      All things considered, I reckon they still have pretty low margins for their hardware compared to PC parts manufacturers. Which they can afford because they make it back on the game store margins.

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      RAM, HDDs, etc are magically not going up in price for them? You think they got some sort of deal that the much bigger manufacturers couldn’t negotiate somehow?

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        Have you any sorts of idea how that business works? How long before production you need to order such large quantities? And that especially because of this the client does not want to end up taking all the risks and demands steady pricing for a very long period?

        Yeah. Thought so.

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          22 hours ago

          Analysts have been calling that this price increase would come to consoles too, and it’s already come for the Xbox. What firm do you work for that your data is telling you otherwise?

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    Makes it even worse that Sony keeps exclusives to their console. And reportedly reduced or stopped single player first party games on PC.

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      There’s nothing left besides Gran Turismo for years now, and I’m not shelling $800 for a GT7 access box.

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        The effects of reduced or no further single player games from Sony on PC will be felt in future. Until now Sony was happily porting their games to PC, but after some reports it looks like that will change. So while the recent games are ported over, new games will probably not. So I am worried for the future, not for current available games.

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          Sony lost monopoly on Monster Hunter twice in the west now, as they have on top fighting games by Cap and Bamco.

          Spidey series came to a happy end. Everyone is surely tired of Horizon by now. What exclusives does Sony even have nowadays with amazing replayability?

          And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.

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            As said, this is about future first party games. The new policy doesn’t have immadiate effect on current developed games. The signal I get is, if true, then new Sony first party games will be locked to their console without porting it to PC. Multiplayer games will be an exception to this apparently.

            And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.

            This is for me a non option, regardless of what game it is. I either play it or don’t. If the game is a movie rather than a videogame, then I am not interested into it anyway. Watching a playthrough or video on YouTube (or any other service) is absolutely something I would not do (and never done) for this kind of thing.

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              Well, Sony better rez Killzone as zoomer Halo or they’ll have fuckall like they have past 8 years for the most part.

              I almost got a PS4 when MonHun World was announced, but then Capcom got with the times and said yes to PC - and that solidified my money spending on an upgrade vs new console.

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                That was PS4 back then. Now consoles are even more expensive. So for many its not even an option to buy a new console, even if it has exclusives locked to it.

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    It is memory prices? Or is it just the “we don’t have any real competition” increase?

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    PS6 is going to be so boutique when that comes out. PS5’s cross gen period with the PS6 is going to be even longer than the PS4s with the PS5

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      I read an article the other day saying that Sony is considering waiting until 2029 for the ps6.

      I really hope that’s true

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      It’s still ongoing. Might as well ask how long the cross gen period between PS4 and PS6 will last at this point.