Cultural relativism aside, I’m sure we can agree on “terrible” if we talk it out. I’m not asking for a “well X country is worse than Y country, so, Y country isn’t THAT bad”. I’d say for this discussion we can go as far back as 1800 for “past” as I’m currently convinced there isn’t a country with a perfect track record going back even that short a time.
Obviously they have all done something that someone think is terrible. Since evil is within people, not within borders.
North Korea hasn’t done anything terrible. If you disagree, you just need to spend some time in a re-education camp.
Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half
Glory to Arstotzka!
Thats fair lol
Thanks you, comrade.
Estonia is pretty decent. They’ve been on the receiving end of terrible shit and haven’t been keen on repeating that in the other direction.
Maybe the Principality of Sealand.
In the grand scheme of things its not that bad but technically Sealand started out as a pirate radio station
You’re equating pirate radio with “terrible things”?
It depends on what kind of music I suppose. Like if it was polka they’re cool. But if it was orchestral…
Orchestral would be cool too. But if it was Morgan Whalen and that dudebro pop country shit…
So they started as heroes and they’re still cool.
Pretty sweet answer
Bhutan
The Nepalese would like to disagree.
Idk I’m seeing a lot of reports of torture, speech issues and state sanctioned racist action.
Tiny island nations that were largely the victim of colonization by others. Trinidad and Tobago. Samoa.
Ask a Tongan why their grandparents don’t like Samoans.
OP said 1800-present. If you’re talking about the 1899 split, then that’s the colonial powers. What am I missing?
Iceland or Costa Rica, maybe?
Pretty good answers, thanks!
I’ve never heard anything bad about Iceland’s government
Only govt in the world that jailed bankers, after the 2008 financial collapse. Source.
awesome
Pretty sick
Uncontacted tribes probably haven’t done much.
What happens in the tribe stays in the tribe
How do we know? We haven’t contacted them.
They likely have warred with other tribes.
Maybe, maybe not. Would have to contact to find out 😉
Antarctica
Too cold to do anything wrong.
Not a country, and does not have a sovereign government.
Woosh
I’m convinced some weird science experiments are going on up there.
Up?
Depends on which way you’re laying on the bed
Correct
Luxembourg seems to have relatively clean hands historically I think. They were occupied by Germany though in WWII
Idk, they do shady banking shit for tax dodging billionaires and corpos
I did read that as soon as I posted it
Yeah seems pretty clean, nice answer!
No…
Heck, I think there aren’t many people who meet that criteria. You’d need some sort of vegan, who doesn’t use any tech made possible with child miners who obviously doesn’t wear sweatshop clothes and probably doesn’t live on stolen land etc…
Switzerland is far from perfect, but compared to its neighbours France, Italy, Germany, has been “good”. No wars, no genocides, no torture, no fascism, no colonies.
Yeah, but unlimited capitalism, taking Nazi gold, etc…
The capitalism part is always funny. Depending on who you talk to, it is either a capitalist paradise or a socialist paradise. Probably because it has a lot of both. Roughly 50% of the economy is in the hands of state or state-owned companies. On the other hand, companies can also fire employees without needing a reason. There are large and powerful unions, but there are no rights to strike. There is mandatory state-regulated health insurance for everyone which covers basically everything, but it’s provided through private insurances. Lots capitalism-socialism “contradictions” for those who don’t know how the country actually works, and don’t want to spend the time to do so.
So people tend to pick what fits their beliefs so that they can criticise the country, usually to make themselves feel better wrt their jealousy of its wealth, stability and beauty.
usually to make themselves feel better wrt their jealousy of its wealth, stability and beauty.
Yikes. Switzerland is an absolutely capitalist hellhole. Not for their own citizens, yes, but for everyone else. Apart from maybe 1 or 2 island nations, it’s the number one spot to store illegal money and “investments”.
Switzerland implements the OECD standards for automatic tax information exchange with other nations, and has done so for a long time
So let’s say a Swiss bank has a literal ton of Nazi gold from 1940s. They would automatically inform other nations of that pile?
No fascism huh?
Ireland is pretty chill for the most part. Definitely not perfect though.
Yeah, definitely not perfect and have some pretty rough recent historical stuff regarding women. Not that bad though!
Yeah, the catholic church shares blame for that but the state was absolutely complicit
I’d argue that the fledgling state didn’t have much of a choice but to effectively outsource all civil services to the catholic church, considering that they couldn’t afford running it themselves.
Their only fault on their part is how it was allowed to stay that way.
But why would the state need to forcibly send unwed mothers to give birth at these sites and then in some cases involuntarily adopt out the children? None of that was necessary even if they couldn’t afford a state run system.
