Northern Ireland, which is actually the north of Ireland, isn’t even in Brittain.
The official name is United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Great Brittain, and Northern Ireland. Which they should give back to Ireland. Maybe add Scotland and Wales as an apology, I’m sure they would love to join the EU again and leave England.
Also, looking at the Union Jack, the northern island cross is wrong, as well as the Scottish blue colour. So basically it’s just an English flag with an artist’s impression of their stolen terretories added to it, while forgetting Wales completely.
I realize I am on thin ice saying this as an Englishman, but I mean it dispassionately - in every poll the plurality of Northern Irish people want to remain in the UK and the Good Friday Agreement states that if the majority ever want a United Ireland then the Secretary of State has to call a binding referendum.
Is that poll only for all the Irish living on the stolen land, or does the poll include the settlers too?
I’m sure all the Americans want to stay in the US when there’s a survey, but the results will be completely different when only natives are asked for their opinion.
Same with Tibet. There are so many Han Chinese there now, they would vote to stay with China if a poll was ever allowed.
Sorry mate, but it’s such an English thing to say: “We colonized it and made sure the majority are settlers so if there ever would be a vote it will be in our favor.” Just give back the stolen land mate. Don’t follow in the footsteps of your brutal colonial ancestors. Be better than that.
I mean you’re talking about settlers from the early 1500s with the repossession of lands taking place 1605-1610 with the first big rebellion in 1641 when Ireland truly lost its power over immigration.
It’s further complicated by the Penal Laws of the early 1700s. If your family was (natively) Irish 300 years ago and stayed in Ireland but converted from Catholicism to Protestants, are you colonizers or not?
Hence why politicians have not been able to unstick the mess for hundreds of years
It’s quite hard to distinguish who is “living on stolen land”
I get it, you can’t make people leave when they are living there for several generations, but at least you can give back the stolen land. They can decide themselves whether they want to live in Ireland or prefer to move.
Is the land stolen? Yes it is. Does it belong to Ireland and should it be given back? Yes is does, and it should.
Do the inhabitants have a right to stay? Yes of course.
There, problem solved. Onto the next issue: The Brittish museum…
Who do you give it back to? Under whose authority? The UK didn’t exist in 1501. Even Wales was it’s own country at this point.
Britain, The British parliament and the British crown were distant concepts hundreds of years in the future.
Half the original Protestant order would’ve preferred to be ruled by Holland than England and half the Catholics would’ve chosen Scotland. Today Scotland and England are part of the same country (legally speaking) and I don’t think the Dutch would be that keen to relitigate the Glorious Revolution.
my favourite part of the UK will always be how they wanted to show that they’ve claimed northern ireland, so what was the best they could come up with?
Slap “london” in front of Derry, fucking beautiful. It’s not just stupid, it sounds like shit too!
80% of places in the English-colonised portion of the Americas are named after England lmao, there’s a London, New York, a few hundred Springfields, Ipswich and even a Worcester in the USA. Americans can barely even pronounce Worcester
During the Plantation of Ulster by English and Scottish settlers, a new walled city was built across the River Foyle from the old site by the Irish Society, a consortium of the livery companies of the City of London.[13] In recognition of the London investors, the 1613 charter stated “that the said city or town of Derry, for ever hereafter be and shall be named and called the city of Londonderry”.
honestly worse, they did it to suck off some fucking investors
Northern Ireland, which is actually the north of Ireland, isn’t even in Brittain.
The official name is United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Great Brittain, and Northern Ireland. Which they should give back to Ireland. Maybe add Scotland and Wales as an apology, I’m sure they would love to join the EU again and leave England.
Also, looking at the Union Jack, the northern island cross is wrong, as well as the Scottish blue colour. So basically it’s just an English flag with an artist’s impression of their stolen terretories added to it, while forgetting Wales completely.
I realize I am on thin ice saying this as an Englishman, but I mean it dispassionately - in every poll the plurality of Northern Irish people want to remain in the UK and the Good Friday Agreement states that if the majority ever want a United Ireland then the Secretary of State has to call a binding referendum.
Is that poll only for all the Irish living on the stolen land, or does the poll include the settlers too?
I’m sure all the Americans want to stay in the US when there’s a survey, but the results will be completely different when only natives are asked for their opinion.
Same with Tibet. There are so many Han Chinese there now, they would vote to stay with China if a poll was ever allowed.
Sorry mate, but it’s such an English thing to say: “We colonized it and made sure the majority are settlers so if there ever would be a vote it will be in our favor.” Just give back the stolen land mate. Don’t follow in the footsteps of your brutal colonial ancestors. Be better than that.
I mean you’re talking about settlers from the early 1500s with the repossession of lands taking place 1605-1610 with the first big rebellion in 1641 when Ireland truly lost its power over immigration.
It’s further complicated by the Penal Laws of the early 1700s. If your family was (natively) Irish 300 years ago and stayed in Ireland but converted from Catholicism to Protestants, are you colonizers or not?
Hence why politicians have not been able to unstick the mess for hundreds of years
It’s quite hard to distinguish who is “living on stolen land”
Maybe we shouldn’t judge or penalize people on the sins of their parents.
And when we start getting into blood purity it gets a little gross.
Ah ok, so if you steal it long enough it’s fine.
I get it, you can’t make people leave when they are living there for several generations, but at least you can give back the stolen land. They can decide themselves whether they want to live in Ireland or prefer to move.
Is the land stolen? Yes it is. Does it belong to Ireland and should it be given back? Yes is does, and it should.
Do the inhabitants have a right to stay? Yes of course.
There, problem solved. Onto the next issue: The Brittish museum…
Who do you give it back to? Under whose authority? The UK didn’t exist in 1501. Even Wales was it’s own country at this point.
Britain, The British parliament and the British crown were distant concepts hundreds of years in the future.
Half the original Protestant order would’ve preferred to be ruled by Holland than England and half the Catholics would’ve chosen Scotland. Today Scotland and England are part of the same country (legally speaking) and I don’t think the Dutch would be that keen to relitigate the Glorious Revolution.
Dutch guy here. Actually…
my favourite part of the UK will always be how they wanted to show that they’ve claimed northern ireland, so what was the best they could come up with?
Slap “london” in front of Derry, fucking beautiful. It’s not just stupid, it sounds like shit too!
But how else could you admire the Londonderry Air?
That’s how Londonderry got named? Are we sure the royals and drumpf aren’t related? That’s some Gulf of America/ Lake America crap right there.
80% of places in the English-colonised portion of the Americas are named after England lmao, there’s a London, New York, a few hundred Springfields, Ipswich and even a Worcester in the USA. Americans can barely even pronounce Worcester
It’s not our fault you guys spelled it like that when it rhymes with the word rooster. Lol
honestly worse, they did it to suck off some fucking investors
We’re actually going to give them to America and Eire will be renamed Trump Island.
Name it prince Andrew island and Trump would love to visit on a regular basis as his favorite island is out of business.