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They’ve been doing this for decades, this is just a new way to exploit open source projects. I remember years ago the controversy surrounding MongoDB when they changed their license because Amazon would sell MongoDB access through AWS without ever giving back to MongoDB’s open source work, and people were mad at MongoDB.
Open source projects should not be allowed to be used for profit by medium to large companies without a paying a percentage based royalty of gross revenue.
Time to create the internet 2?
This sounds familiar…
spez!!!
All of this is on the first page of the Bible. AI must be up to something.
Honestly, SEO broke things first. The fact that the mountains of crap became impossible to sift through is what opened the door for LLMs to grab market share in the first place.
Really, as soon as Google became an ad company, the writing was on the wall.
SEO became a thing when business started making its way onto the web. There was no profit motive when the web was an academic platform, corporate presence online ended that. SEO was a symptom to that arrival.
Even without SEO, the public would’ve jumped on LLMs just the same
Maybe, but it is fair to say, everything that makes it easier to find what you want… makes the internet more usable. In areas where finding what you want wasn’t terrible, when they impliment AI, most people hate it.
You posted all that stuff on ad-driven websites, you already handed it to them to turn into a product.
That’s… The point of the post. They’re talking about ai specifically, but everything is monetized these days. Including people chatting with each other online.
This happened because we let “business” morons and product managers take over. This is what they do. They arrive with their gigantic Dening-Kruger syndrom and fuck everything up. Like we needed any of these parasites to build the Internet.
Save a computer, eat a marketer.
Psst… It’s Dunning-Kruger.
its not even selling access to the library tho, its someone standing in front of the library retelling, in their own words, what is in the books and also including things that aren’t in any books or media but sounds like they might be.
And then you just ignore them and walk into the library.
If you can find it (and if it even exists).
This keeps getting posted, but it’s still wrong.
The library is still there, the admission is still free. The card catalogue isn’t as useful for finding the contents anymore. But, as long as you can find the tutorials, answers, etc. are still available, still free to access.
The AIs trained on the data, but they didn’t delete it when they were done training.
Except that rare book thingy, where they’re debinding, scanning and trashing them.
Or the fact that a ton of indie forums had to close or go private because of the excessive scraping.
That’s awful, but it isn’t what this post is about.
It’s actually worse.
There’s a library, been there for years. Across the street someone opened a book rental service, and people are flocking to the paid service for access to what they were just getting for free. Not only that but the paid service is less accurate and you still have to go to the library from time to time to check what the service is selling.
Somehow we need to stretch this metaphor to account for the fact that the book rental service can only work by sending millions of robots into all the free libraries every day, taxing the resources of the free library with all the traffic.
And the resources in the paid book store are allowed to lie and manipulate with barely any warning (maybe 0.0001pt font underneath the store sign), while the store tells you everything is trustworthy and absolutely reliable.
But bro I’m so sick of pretending…
You forgot the part where the real answers are obfuscated by all the poor quality tutorials being generated every day, repeating wrong answers and proliferating the problem.
This is colonialism.
The worst is that a significant proportion of the answers or information you get from them are wrong.
But you don’t know which answers or how often unless you do the work to check yourself. So why bother in the first place?
I mean, the library is still there. You don’t have to use those products (yet at least…)
A lot of knowledge is lost. The forums are shutting down, because people moved to Reddit - or discord. Then people deleted their Reddit posts, and discord isn’t public.
That was happening long before LLMs
Yeah, you also don’t have to drive a car if you go cross country,but it’s much faster if you do. Just make sure you’re well prepared, well rested and you keep your eyes on the road.
Silver lining: we have always and will always exist, they will only exist intermittently. We have always, and will always out number them.
Optimistic: glacial progress is still progress.
Pessimistic: Why bother planting a tree who’s shade you will never enjoy.
The only way we can truly fail is to adopt their mercenary “what’s in it for me” way of thinking.
Far more than mildly infuriating
Mildly catastrophic.
