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dbzer0 has a ton of great communities but they’ve had some real weirdo niche mods come to light lately. I’m hoping they address it, it’d be a change of pace from the general admin approach on lemmy which can feel extremely hands-off on most instances.
There’s definitely something changing with dbzer0 when it comes to Tankies. They actively avoid criticising them now.
oh yea i couldnt put my finger on dbzero, are they are tankie or not, ive seen quite a few users with pro-extreme rhetoric.
dbzer0 is the pro-piracy instance. That’s the entire political stance. Most users are some kind of anarchist, some are tankies or tankie sympathizers who are there because dbzer0 don’t defederate from Hexbear, and I’ve spotted a libertarian once, but all users on dbzer0 think piracy is a good thing to one extent or other.
piracy’s great! i pirate literally everything if i can, with the exception of indie-stuff, I like supporting the lil guy
though they do arrest pirates in china
What’s a decent lemmy instance? The ones named above are the ones I use lol.
Piefed social seems to be a good alternative.
slrpnk and dbzer0 are both fine, and .world is a bit fractious but still quite solid. Blahaj is good too! Really the only instances I’d suggest avoiding are Hexbear, Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad
but dbzer0 federates with hexbear…
Bahaj is a pretty nice place. The mods I’ve interacted with there seem to have their heads screwed on straight. We will see how long that continues.
people are fine, as long as they dont visit the main politics.world communities, or anyof the affiliate. there some semi-wierd pro-ziolnist thing going on.
I was permabanned from the political and news subs for writing, WITH REPUTABLE SOURCES, Russia’s election meddling AND for saying feminist things. I spoke with the mod who banned me publicly and he was unable to support his ban based on the rules, but kept it intact. Those subs imo are compromised by their mods
yea i just skim those subs, prior to being purged as effort by reddit to reduce user numbers on the site. too easy to get into conflict with trolls and get yourself banned.
Blahaj 😂
That must be one of the most authoritarian ones. Not tankie, but the lgbt tankie equivalent
Got any examples? Blahaj was founded on the principle of protecting trans people, and I have yet to see anything here that people are claiming as mods abusing their power that didn’t turn out to be people getting upset about being banned for being transphobic.
There’s definitely some tankies here, but the biggest complaint I have about Blahaj is that you can’t see downvotes so the most controversial posts can look like the most agreed on takes.
That’s exactly the thing: bans for transphobia are often about non-transphobic speech. Not agreeing on specific subjects doesn’t mean one is transphobic. Thinking a cisgender person can have an opinion on laws or regulation regarding transgenders is not transphobia. Having your feelings hurt over an opinion while you are a trans doesn’t make it transphobia. Transphobia is hate speech.
Source: I have been instance-banned from blahaj on an older account. Maybe twice? Not sure. I’m not willing to share the accounts’ names, but I try to respect my instance bans. Don’t want to interact there anyways
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people will assume I’m transphobic because they know me better than myself, apparently
So Warl0k3 had a pretty good conversation on the matter, but as the original asker I just wanted to add something.
In this regard, Blahaj is no more authoritarian than a lesbian bar. That’s the analogy I use to describe how Blahaj is run - it’s like a gay/lesbian bar. It’s not a place meant to be an open floor of debate or something, it’s a place for trans people made by trans people. Blahaj is supposed to be a place where people can get away from the “just asking questions” or having to defend their existence constantly like everywhere else on the internet and real life. And just like a lesbian bar, if you bother the clientele or staff, you can and will be thrown out.
Can’t the same be said for the usual suspects like lemmygrad, hexbear, .ml…?
Lemmy is meant to be used to discuss with people. When you try to enforce your rules outside, you go too far.
I still don’t think it’s a great instance to point people to. Not with an admin actively silencing ‘opponents’, defaming and spreading misinformation
Your defense is basically “it’s meant to be authoritarian”
A bar is not a forum. Lemmy’s goal is to discuss and share things. If only a specific point of view is allowed, it ceases to be a “safe place” and becomes a circlejerk. Like it if you want, I find it dumb and will never recommend biased or opinionated instances if they don’t allow other opinions.
How do I put this, your belief of what Lemmy and a forum are intended for are…misguided? Not quite the word I’m looking for, but close.
A forum is a 3rd space, like a bar, a restaurant, a community garden, a local store that runs tabletop games, or even a park. A gathering space for people to intermingle. But that doesn’t mean that a forum has to allow everything. 3rd spaces still have rules to be followed. When you enter Blahaj, you agree to abide by the house rules. And some of those rules are there specifically to stop sealioning behavior, which trans people are subjected to endlessly everywhere else on the web and looks exactly like this:
There are places where those kinds of questions and debates are okay (as long as they’re sincere and not malicious), but Blahaj is designed to be a space where trans people can get together and not be bombarded by those sorts of questions endlessly.
I mean, it’s more that you say inherently transphobic things like:
that shines some light on the potential reasons you might have been banned from the instance.
Inherently transphobic? You’re just assuming and extrapolating
Don’t assume it’s malicious, they might just not know. Aren’t we here to discuss? Being wrong doesn’t mean I should be banned, but I should be corrected. Closing debates when I’m respectful isn’t useful to anyone
I just like to question things, not take and accept them just because the person is concerned by the topic, especially if they have a sensibility or opinion on the subject
The problem is you’re approaching interaction with the assumption it’s appreciated - but Blahaj isn’t set aside as an educational space, it’s a queer space - and people coming in and retreating to just asking questions when challenged is a really tired trope. You can be unfamiliar with a topic yes, but people are under no obligation to explain themselves or engage in a discussion with you just because of that. Calling a group “LGBT tankies” because you don’t understand this may be justified under your own guiding principals, but it comes across as the same kind of petulance as when incels encounter a women’s-only space.
You’re mad because you were banned, and you have a history of expressing transphobic opinions regardless of your internal motivation. It seems pretty straightforward what happened here.
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