How does that work though? At least voting in the Democrat primaries, candidates with sane policies and values can potentially end up the ones on the general ballot. I don’t see that happening in the Republican primaries. And regardless of your registration status regressive Democrat politicians aren’t going to be trying to appeal to you if you have sane political values. Maybe my bad for taking a joke too seriously but doesn’t seem like a rational approach.
No you (and everyone else) should be voting in primaries more. Everyone ignores voting except for once every four years. Then we have the problem that no one wants to run or can run. I have been asked repeatedly but dont have the resources to walk away from employment into public service. How many others are like this. This is a problem of our own making.
They are doing their part. Just voting for the other option. Every primary is won by the centrists, you might think it’s because of a conspiracy but it might be just the option that most people prefer. Trump even won the popular vote the second time around, the American public just doesn’t agree with you. I wish they did, but they don’t.
They vote for centrists because they believe policy that helps them and the people they know is actually less electable than typical centrist, means-tested bullshit that helps nobody. Every election the talking heads on CNN tell them “Don’t vote for the candidate with the best policy, vote for the candidate an imaginary conservative suburbanite would vote for.”
The median voter who is 50% democrat, 50% republican, who will vote for a 98% republican against a 100% republican isn’t a real thing, but the dems pretend it is because it allows them to justify wildly unpopular policy to their own base.
The rules of the Republican Party make it easier for fringe groups to take over, which is why it’s a Trump cult now.
Maybe progressives and leftists should try and swamp that party first. At a minimum we won’t have the problem of people automatically dismissing candidates because of the D next to the name.
And centrists won’t be able to yell at us about being stupid and voting for a third party.
Because thr DNC is designed to eliminate any leftist/progressive momentum before it can amount to actual change. The whole point of the party for the past 50 years has been to make empty promises to people while shoveling money to corporations amd the wealthy.
I’ve long said that you can splinter the GOP with a faction that’s obviously socialist to anyone who’s read theory, but drapes itself in patriotic jargon and leans into anti-establishment pro-worker sentiment. Country music used to be very leftist if you pay attention, lean into that.
I’m literally the opposite, I’m registered as a Democrat and vote for progressives every primary.
Don’t come at me with the spoiler effect. I know, you know, and most importantly the candidates know. They know. So if a candidate doesn’t oppose FPTP, what do you think that tells you? They don’t get to fall silent on this issue while holding us hostage with it.
Democratic primaries gave us Mamdani. The problem isn’t Democratic primaries, it’s not having the right candidates on yours. We’re not getting out of the duopoly anytime soon. Either run in the primary yourself, or campaign for someone who will.
I should register as a Republican so the Democrats start to care what I think
How does that work though? At least voting in the Democrat primaries, candidates with sane policies and values can potentially end up the ones on the general ballot. I don’t see that happening in the Republican primaries. And regardless of your registration status regressive Democrat politicians aren’t going to be trying to appeal to you if you have sane political values. Maybe my bad for taking a joke too seriously but doesn’t seem like a rational approach.
It’s a joke about how Democrats campaign to try and change Republican voters toward their side while ignoring people who already vote Democrat.
They do be doing that a lot.
It doesnt work and that user doesn’t want it to work.
No you (and everyone else) should be voting in primaries more. Everyone ignores voting except for once every four years. Then we have the problem that no one wants to run or can run. I have been asked repeatedly but dont have the resources to walk away from employment into public service. How many others are like this. This is a problem of our own making.
A solution? FUCK THAT I WANNA BE MAD!
Like I haven’t been voting in primaries and every local election since the year 2000…
Maybe I’m sick of waiting for everyone else to do their goddamn part.
They are doing their part. Just voting for the other option. Every primary is won by the centrists, you might think it’s because of a conspiracy but it might be just the option that most people prefer. Trump even won the popular vote the second time around, the American public just doesn’t agree with you. I wish they did, but they don’t.
Warm regards from a European socialist.
They vote for centrists because they believe policy that helps them and the people they know is actually less electable than typical centrist, means-tested bullshit that helps nobody. Every election the talking heads on CNN tell them “Don’t vote for the candidate with the best policy, vote for the candidate an imaginary conservative suburbanite would vote for.”
The median voter who is 50% democrat, 50% republican, who will vote for a 98% republican against a 100% republican isn’t a real thing, but the dems pretend it is because it allows them to justify wildly unpopular policy to their own base.
Yet somehow they get elected…
Because the DNC and state parties ratfuck and progressive in the primaries.
That, or because primary voters (outside of new York and la) prefer the centrists.
Yes I’m aware that humans are terrible
You said the problem yourself: Only the rich can run for office. The problem isn’t “our own making”. The problem is the system.
This was the first year I haven’t been a Democrat.
I just don’t care about voting in their primaries anymore, and that’s the only reason I was in there to begin with.
The rules of the Republican Party make it easier for fringe groups to take over, which is why it’s a Trump cult now.
Maybe progressives and leftists should try and swamp that party first. At a minimum we won’t have the problem of people automatically dismissing candidates because of the D next to the name.
And centrists won’t be able to yell at us about being stupid and voting for a third party.
Because thr DNC is designed to eliminate any leftist/progressive momentum before it can amount to actual change. The whole point of the party for the past 50 years has been to make empty promises to people while shoveling money to corporations amd the wealthy.
I’ve long said that you can splinter the GOP with a faction that’s obviously socialist to anyone who’s read theory, but drapes itself in patriotic jargon and leans into anti-establishment pro-worker sentiment. Country music used to be very leftist if you pay attention, lean into that.
I’m literally the opposite, I’m registered as a Democrat and vote for progressives every primary.
Don’t come at me with the spoiler effect. I know, you know, and most importantly the candidates know. They know. So if a candidate doesn’t oppose FPTP, what do you think that tells you? They don’t get to fall silent on this issue while holding us hostage with it.
Democratic primaries gave us Mamdani. The problem isn’t Democratic primaries, it’s not having the right candidates on yours. We’re not getting out of the duopoly anytime soon. Either run in the primary yourself, or campaign for someone who will.
Same here. I registered independent last month.